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    Soccer Photography Question

    A neighbor has two kiddos who play soccer (different age groups), and since their family has been helpful with snow removal during the winter, I told them I'd like to take soccer photos. There are multiple fields side-by-side so the only access would be from one end where one of the goals is located. Since there isn't any access from the sidelines, would the D500 with a 70-200mm be okay, or should I add my 1.4x TC for a little extra reach? I'd rather be set ahead of time rather than to have to remove my lens out in the field - if at all possible. Thanks.


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    What software do you use for photo processing? Photoshop new enhance may be of help.
    I cannot believe there are no sidelines. Go to the soccer field and take some pictures with the kids or family members.

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    Shooting from the end actually isn't so bad, particularly with soccer, because most of what happens midfield is just kids running to one of the ends. When my brother shot soccer and football for the newspapers he would always set up in the end zone. From behind the end line you get them running toward you, from the corner you get shots on goal. A 70-200mm will be fine for a lot of it, but I'd bring a small bag with the TC and the 300mm just in case.

    Set up behind the goal the kids you want to shoot will be running towards, then swap ends at the half. Figure out which side of center they play and grab that corner. Or if they're fullbacks or goalie then stay on their end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonpup View Post
    What software do you use for photo processing? Photoshop new enhance may be of help.
    I cannot believe there are no sidelines. Go to the soccer field and take some pictures with the kids or family members.
    I use PCC 2018. The newest version requires more RAM than this Windows 7 PC can handle. No family members anywhere nearby although I might go and take a look thru my viewfinder to see how close or far things look. Thanks, nikonpup.

    Quote Originally Posted by BackdoorArts View Post
    Shooting from the end actually isn't so bad, particularly with soccer, because most of what happens midfield is just kids running to one of the ends. When my brother shot soccer and football for the newspapers he would always set up in the end zone. From behind the end line you get them running toward you, from the corner you get shots on goal. A 70-200mm will be fine for a lot of it, but I'd bring a small bag with the TC and the 300mm just in case.

    Set up behind the goal the kids you want to shoot will be running towards, then swap ends at the half. Figure out which side of center they play and grab that corner. Or if they're fullbacks or goalie then stay on their end.
    I just don't know if I can move from one end to the other. The far end is close to a stand of trees. Since I've never been there during their games, I have no idea whether they allow people on the other end.

    Good idea on taking the 300mm and TC. I have a Think Tank holster and belt. I can put the extra lens in the holster and just wear the camera/lens combo. Would you say 1/2000"? They don't move as fast as birds, but because they will be a lot closer, I know a faster shutter speed will probably be better. Thanks for your input, Jake.
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    Re: Soccer Photography Question

    Hark,
    I haven't really been much of a soccer fan, but don't the teams switch goals at halftime or after the quarter? If you can go to a big box store, go out away from the building and shoot pics of people if they are any that far away, or vehicles that are about the right height as people and that should help gauge what they will look like through your lens. From one side to the other should be close to the right distance and if you want to be more precise, measure a parking space and count out what you want for distance. You know, we all want to see your results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Would you say 1/2000"? They don't move as fast as birds, but because they will be a lot closer, I know a faster shutter speed will probably be better. Thanks for your input, Jake.
    It depends on what you're trying to get. It's a tougher as but for sports I like the shot to convey the action of the moment (not that I shoot a lot of sports) so I'd try and track the subject at a slightly slower shutter speed to show the motion. Also smaller apertures so it doesn't look like a good cell phone pick. You've got a fair amount of time so just shoot whatever's in front of you and see what you came up with while they're at the other end. And just do some searches on "soccer photography". I found this page with tips. They say to stay at 1/800s and above, so given that you're dealing with kids you're probably good there. But again, try and adjust.

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    Good to see kids in the US are playing football (not soccer )

    I would suggest look for situations where players come together, like trying to head the ball and sliding tackles, which both make for great action shots. Also shots of the goalkeeper diving to save the ball.
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    Soccer Photography Question
    Quote Originally Posted by BeegRhob View Post
    Hark,
    I haven't really been much of a soccer fan, but don't the teams switch goals at halftime or after the quarter? If you can go to a big box store, go out away from the building and shoot pics of people if they are any that far away, or vehicles that are about the right height as people and that should help gauge what they will look like through your lens. From one side to the other should be close to the right distance and if you want to be more precise, measure a parking space and count out what you want for distance. You know, we all want to see your results!

    Rob
    I'm looking to create a couple of different effects. Photoshop Elements used to have this built in as an easy method (rather than doing it manually). I still have Elements 10 on this PC so might give it a go. It's called the Pop Out Effect. Here is an image from https://www.photoshopessentials.com/...fects/pop-out/

    Soccer Photography Question-final-result.jpg

    Another effect I want to try - although I don't know if it will work with the background constantly changing - is when the camera is stationary yet multiple images are taken of someone running horizontally through the frame. Then the images are compiled into a composite. So it shows motion but not motion blur. People do that with moon images to show how the moon tracks during the night. Unfortunately I cannot come up with a sample image because I don't know what it's called. However, I've seen it done with kids running into a parent's arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BackdoorArts View Post
    It depends on what you're trying to get. It's a tougher as but for sports I like the shot to convey the action of the moment (not that I shoot a lot of sports) so I'd try and track the subject at a slightly slower shutter speed to show the motion. Also smaller apertures so it doesn't look like a good cell phone pick. You've got a fair amount of time so just shoot whatever's in front of you and see what you came up with while they're at the other end. And just do some searches on "soccer photography". I found this page with tips. They say to stay at 1/800s and above, so given that you're dealing with kids you're probably good there. But again, try and adjust.
    Thanks for the link, Jake. It has some helpful info. I did do an online search but didn't quite find the info I wanted. This is appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter7100 View Post
    Good to see kids in the US are playing football (not soccer )

    I would suggest look for situations where players come together, like trying to head the ball and sliding tackles, which both make for great action shots. Also shots of the goalkeeper diving to save the ball.
    Haha! I know some countries call it football. Will keep these suggestions in mind.
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