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    Question Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    So I'm looking to make my next glass purchase in the coming months and I'm having a bit of a dilemma.

    I'd like to have the 85 for portraits and just because it's such a great lens sharpness-wise. I'd also like to do some macro shooting.

    Here's the question.... If I were to get the 105mm f2.8 macro lens, would it work equally as well for shooting portraits? The focal length seems to be in / close to that prime "portrait zone" that most photographers shoot at. I also don't feel like losing a couple of stops in the aperture would affect the DOF more than I'd likely desire when shooting a portrait.

    Basically, could I make the 105 double as a good portrait lens or would it really be that important to have BOTH lenses? I'm not a pro, and if the 105 could come very close to producing the same kinds of results that the 85 would when taking portraits then I think I have my answer.

    Thanks for all of your very much appreciated input.



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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Gauge View Post
    So I'm looking to make my next glass purchase in the coming months and I'm having a bit of a dilemma.

    I'd like to have the 85 for portraits and just because it's such a great lens sharpness-wise. I'd also like to do some macro shooting.

    Here's the question.... If I were to get the 105mm f2.8 macro lens, would it work equally as well for shooting portraits? The focal length seems to be in / close to that prime "portrait zone" that most photographers shoot at. I also don't feel like losing a couple of stops in the aperture would affect the DOF more than I'd likely desire when shooting a portrait.

    Basically, could I make the 105 double as a good portrait lens or would it really be that important to have BOTH lenses? I'm not a pro, and if the 105 could come very close to producing the same kinds of results that the 85 would when taking portraits then I think I have my answer.

    Thanks for all of your very much appreciated input.
    I could shoot portraits on a DX body using the Nikon 105mm f/2.8 Micro all the live long day. It's a great lens and the focal length is fine for shooting portraits.

    The 85mm f/1.8G is one of my favorite Nikon lenses but if you want one lens for both portraits and macro then the 105mm f/2.8 is the obvious choice.
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    That's all I needed to know! I'd love to own every lens ever made but that pesky money thing, I don't have enough of it.
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    We had a forum post on this that I couldn't find.

    I have both and use both. The thing about the 105 is it gives you the macro ability as well. There really isn't much difference in the focal length that your feet couldn't fix.

    Both great lenses
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    My instructor (when I get to take classes) raves about both, but says the 105mm is a great "all around" since it will do Macro AND portraits quite well. He also states that if you're more​ interested in portraiture than macro, the 85mm can't be beat.
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    I've been debating getting as 85mm for portraits but my 105mm micro has been serving well, so I still haven't really put it very high on my list! I shoot way more macro than portraits anyway so far! Lol
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    Look at the DXO score between the Nikon 105 2.8 and the Tokina 100mm...

    The Tokina is better, and 1/2 the price of the Nikon...
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredKingston View Post
    Look at the DXO score between the Nikon 105 2.8 and the Tokina 100mm...

    The Tokina is better, and 1/2 the price of the Nikon...
    I've always eyed that one as well, but the VR on the Nikon wins me over, as I shoot a lot of my "Macro" on the go (thus handheld). I know, it seems silly, but in my less-than-lab testing, I get better shots with the VR on my 70-300 combined with the Raynox than I do with same settings and the VR off.

    Of course, that's at 300mm then magnified. Do you think it would make a difference at 105?
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    Ooooooh I never considered the VR or lack of it on my macro! Maybe my shots would be better had I had VR on my 105mm micro Nikkor, but it is a af-d version!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretzel View Post
    I've always eyed that one as well, but the VR on the Nikon wins me over, as I shoot a lot of my "Macro" on the go (thus handheld). I know, it seems silly, but in my less-than-lab testing, I get better shots with the VR on my 70-300 combined with the Raynox than I do with same settings and the VR off.

    Of course, that's at 300mm then magnified. Do you think it would make a difference at 105?
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    Re: Next Lens: 105mm f2.8 or 85mm f1.8 - One or both?

    I don't take many portraits, but have all of Nikon's macro lenses. By an order of magnitude I use the 105mm the most. It is a great macro lens, but adding the value of the VR and distance from subject for macro shots and the value becomes great. I use the 85mm for travel as a normal lens to save weight, in case I really need a macro. I'd definitely start with the 105mm
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