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  1. #1
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    Raw and photoshop

    Hi guys
    I am finally going to bite the bullet. I am changing one of the memory chips in my 7200 to record in the raw format. Which Photo Shop package do you suggest for retouching?
    Harle


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    Nikonos V 35 f2.5, w/ Close Up
    DX18-55 f3.5, DX18-105 f3.5, DX55-300 f5.4, DX35 f1.8
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  2. #2
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Quote Originally Posted by harleridr View Post
    Hi guys
    I am finally going to bite the bullet. I am changing one of the memory chips in my 7200 to record in the raw format. Which Photo Shop package do you suggest for retouching?
    Harle
    If you want to use Adobe Photoshop specifically (meaning instead of Photoshop Elements or some other similar application) your options are pretty limited.

    You can spend $10 a month for the Photography Plan that includes Photoshop, Lightroom and 20GB of online storage; $20 a month for the Photography Plan that includes Photoshop, Lightroom and 1GB of online storage or you can spend $21 a month and just have Photoshop CC. All three options will include the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in as well as Adobe Bridge. All three "roads" lead you to Adobe Photoshop CC.

    I don't know if retail packaged versions of Photoshop CS6 can still be found or not.
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Both Lightroom and Photoshop (and Photoshop Elements) have the ability to edit Camera RAW files. The controls are just laid out differently. Lightroom has the advantage of cataloging your images. Photoshop allows layers, layer masks, and a variety of things that might not be able to be done in Lightoom.

    Photoshop Elements offers some of the same features as the full version of Photoshop although it is missing some things (offhand, I don't know what they are now because I haven't kept up with it). I learned on Photoshop Elements before switching to Lightroom. It's probably easier to learn how to edit in Camera RAW first - which can be accessed in the full version of Photoshop, Lightroom, or in Photoshop Elements (which might not have everything but should have quite a few similar options for editing).
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  4. #4
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    I like Lightroom. I found it easy to use and I like the catalog. I have the $10/month plan so I use photoshop on occasion too, but I'm not so comfortable with it. PS Elements is OK, I used to use that. I wasn't super comfortable with that either, Lightroom just 'clicked' for me. You can download trials of these, but don't do it all at once, 30 days goes too quickly to try them all at once. You could also watch some of the 'getting started' type adobe training videos for each before downloading anything to see if any of them appeals or offends before you bother downloading and trying it.
    Be careful if you sign up for any of the subscriptions. Adobe experiments on offerings. At one time I think they had true monthly plans that you could cancel. What you see now is "annual plan, paid monthly", so you are signing up and agreeing to pay for the year via monthly payments. Not sure what the penalty is for quitting, but there is one in the fine print.
    I must have a really good camera.

  5. #5
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Basically, all the available editors have the same basic features... You can install the Nikon suite of software that came with your camera, or you can just download it from Nikon's web site. It's free... After you're comfortable using the various editing features, then you'll have a basic understanding of the available features...then you can look at the "for money" programs that do the same thing ...

  6. #6
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Thank you Guys. You have been a great help.
    Thanks again
    Harle
    Nikon F5, 2-N90s w/MB10, D70, D70s, D5100, D7000 w/ MB-D11, D7200
    Nikon 300 f4 D, 80-200 f2.8 D, 28-200 f3.5 G, 18-35 f3.5 D, 35-70 f2.8 D, TC-14B,
    Nikonos V 35 f2.5, w/ Close Up
    DX18-55 f3.5, DX18-105 f3.5, DX55-300 f5.4, DX35 f1.8
    Nikon DR-6, ME1, SB28, SB500, SB600, SU800, GP-1, P600, Coolpix 5600 with u/water case,
    Sigma 105 f2.8 macro, 10-20 f4-5.6
    Sony DV405 with u/water case
    Tamron 24-70 f3.3, 28-300 f3.5, TWO 16-300 f3.5-63, 1.4, 2.0 extenders

  7. #7
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    An advantage to using the Nikon software as Fred suggested is that the Nikon software will give you a decent looking image without doing any editing at all. The Nikon stuff will apply the camera picture settings so you will start off editing with something that looks exactly like the camera jpg. The Adobe stuff and any 3rd party editor will give you a more 'blah' image to start with that must be worked on. Not a big deal, you can apply a preset if you want. For somebody just starting out though it might be comforting to start off with an image that is already pretty good.
    I must have a really good camera.

  8. #8
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Not that I care who processes what, or what software application/s they use to do it, but one thing I really like about the newer versions of ACR is the "Auto" button. Somewhere around version 10.0.0 Adobe changed how the Auto button in ACR is configured and these latest versions work really, really well. I seem to recall Adobe saying something about implementing what it calls "Sensei AI", whatever that means. However it does what it does, the Auto button generates a really good, really clean base-image from which to start working on probably +90% of the time. The Auto button in ACR is so good I almost always give it a shot, straight away, just to see what it will give me. It's a huge time saver and, combined with the Hue Light profiles for my camera bodies, cuts down on my processing time significantly.

    Blake Rudis has a really good video on this topic.
    Last edited by Horoscope Fish; 06-12-2019 at 04:56 AM.
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Raw and photoshop
    Quote Originally Posted by Horoscope Fish View Post
    Not that I care who processes what, or what software application/s they use to do it, but one thing I really like about the newer versions of ACR is the "Auto" button. Somewhere around version 10.0.0 Adobe changed how the Auto button in ACR is configured and these latest versions work really, really well. I seem to recall Adobe saying something about implementing what it calls "Sensei AI", whatever that means. However it does what it does, the Auto button generates a really good, really clean base-image from which to start working on probably +90% of the time. The Auto button in ACR is so good I almost always give it a shot, straight away, just to see what it will give me. It's a huge time saver and, combined with the Hue Light profiles for my camera bodies, cuts down on my processing time significantly.

    Blake Rudis has a really good video on this topic.
    I thought it was just me that tried the lazy way first ,as you say it can now often get you very close if not spot on.
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  10. #10
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    Re: Raw and photoshop

    Raw and photoshop
    Quote Originally Posted by Horoscope Fish View Post
    Blake Rudis has a really good video on this topic.
    That is a good video, thanks for sharing.
    Thanks/Like Horoscope Fish Thanks/liked this post
     
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