How to increase shutter speed with internal flash?

Nikong

New member
Hey everyone!

Thank you for reading. I'm just learning about things like shutter speed. When I am taking pictures outdoors, I can move my shutter speed to whatever I want. However, when I try to take a picture with flash for whatever reason (internal)- I can't move it beyond 1/200. Is there anything I can do to solve this? I'm trying to take a portrait indoors with the flash, and pictures are becoming blurred if the subject moves while my camera slowly takes the picture. I'm unable to just snap a shot and capture a fleeting moment.

I've tried messing with the ISO, aperture, and white balance. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or of there is nothing that can fix this. I keep reading that it's an automatic setting for many cameras but I'm wondering if there's a way to override it?
 
First off Welcome to the Forum. It would help us answer your question if we knew what camera you are shooting with since the answer could be different depending on the camera.


You can do that at http://nikonites.com/profile.php?do=editprofile

Under camera just put the model number like D7100; Once you put the first letter like D you will see a list of all the cameras in the database pop up. The more numbers you put in the smaller the list becomes. When you see your camera just click on it, Be sure to click on "Save Changes" in the lower right corner.

Thanks
 

RocketCowboy

Senior Member
First off, howdy and welcome to Nikonites!

You don't mention which model Nikon you have, but most will have a flash sync speed of either 1/200 or 1/250. Some of the higher end models also support High Speed Sync (HSS), and can go as high as 1/4000 or 1/8000 ... but with significantly lowered flash output power.

At 1/200, I would still expect to see motion frozen. I don't typically go with that high of a shutter speed when using flash, but it all depends on my lens focal length. More details or a sample shot might help to get some specific suggestions for improvement.
 

Bob Blaylock

Senior Member
Hey everyone!

Thank you for reading. I'm just learning about things like shutter speed. When I am taking pictures outdoors, I can move my shutter speed to whatever I want. However, when I try to take a picture with flash for whatever reason (internal)- I can't move it beyond 1/200. Is there anything I can do to solve this? I'm trying to take a portrait indoors with the flash, and pictures are becoming blurred if the subject moves while my camera slowly takes the picture. I'm unable to just snap a shot and capture a fleeting moment.

I've tried messing with the ISO, aperture, and white balance. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or of there is nothing that can fix this. I keep reading that it's an automatic setting for many cameras but I'm wondering if there's a way to override it?

It is a characteristic of focal plane shutters, which are used in nearly all SLRs, that they can only work with short-duration flash up to a certain shutter speed. Beyond that speed, not all of the frame is exposed at the same time, and if a flash were to go off, it would only expose part of the frame.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal-plane_shutter for an explanation of how focal plane shutters work. Note the illustration that shows how, at high speed, the shutter basically takes the for of a narrow slit moving across the frame, and understand that an electronic flash going off during that time would only expose the part of the film that was uncovered at that instant by that narrow slit.

Count yourself fortunate that your modern camera can do X-sync at up to 1/200 of a second. My 1972-vintage F2 can only do it up to 1/80″, and that is a bit faster than the 1/60″ that was typical of most SLRs of its day.
 
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cwgrizz

Senior Member
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The flash, instead of a faster shutter speed, is what stops the action because the flash is producing a burst of light faster than almost any shutter speed.
 

WayneF

Senior Member
Hey everyone!

Thank you for reading. I'm just learning about things like shutter speed. When I am taking pictures outdoors, I can move my shutter speed to whatever I want. However, when I try to take a picture with flash for whatever reason (internal)- I can't move it beyond 1/200. Is there anything I can do to solve this? I'm trying to take a portrait indoors with the flash, and pictures are becoming blurred if the subject moves while my camera slowly takes the picture. I'm unable to just snap a shot and capture a fleeting moment.

Sorry, but yes, 1/200 second is the maximum shutter sync speed. Faster is not possible. This is explained at Maximum Shutter Sync Speed for Flash .

A few top camera models can do 1/250 second with flash, but that's not much difference. Actually, 1/200 second is considered fast today, for years in the old days it was 1/60 second maximum with flash. And this is normally not much issue indoors, when the ambient is dim, and not able to blur the motion that the flash already stopped.

A few hot shoe speedlight models can do a special HSS flash mode, which is a very different deal, but it can allow fastest shutter speed, but at very reduced flash power. But we would never consider using HSS mode indoors, the regular speedlight mode (at 1/200 second) will run circles around HSS (power, distance, range). And no internal flash model can do HSS, and not all cameras can do it.

The flashes (including the internal flash) are called speedlights, because at lower power levels (which greater flash power allows), they can be extremely fast (called speedlights), and they are what is used to stop fastest motion with flash, for example, water drop splashes, or bursting water balloons. For example, this picture stops motion when the balloon is still only partially broken, and the water in the balloon is still in place, not collapsed yet. This picture was taken in the shade under a patio in the afternoon, not bright, but not near dark. The shutter speed was one second, while the balloon was poked with a knitting needle to burst it. The flash stops the action, so long as the ambient is not bright enough to blur what the flash already stopped.


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But this was a regular higher powered hot shoe speedlight (ISO 400 f/16 one second). The internal flash is very low powered, and having to operate at its highest power slows it down. Still, portraits should not involve much motion to be much problem.

What was your ISO and fstop that caused the problem? I'm guessing that high ISO did you in. High ISO and wide aperture makes the camera very sensitive to the continuous light. Continuous light cannot stop motion. But low ISO at say f/8 can shut it out, so that the flash is basically the only light, and it can stop the motion. But the flash does need some power at ISO 100 f/8.

Essentially most normal formal studio portraits use flash and a 1/200 second shutter speed (because the shutter won't sync flash faster). The difference is those flashes are bigger units, regular hot shoe speedlights maybe, but capable of higher power than the little internal flash, which allows the camera to use low ISO and stopped down aperture (like ISO 100 f/8) which the point is, if without the flash, this would be a dark black picture, which cannot blur anything. Then the flash itself lights the picture, and it is quite fast, stopping action. A regular speedlight like say an $80 Yongnuo YN565 EX model allows higher power, then could be at least 1/1000 second duration, more likely 1/4000 second, much faster than the shutter speed. Speedlight flash is how we stop motion. It just typically takes a little more power than the little internal flash can do.
 
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