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    Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C
    I finally AI'd my recently-acquired 55 f3.5 Micro Nikkor-P.C so I can venture into the world of macrophotography on my D7100! Until now, I've dabbled very minimally with macrophotography, mainly handheld close-ups with my 18-55 VRII on my D3300, and even briefer dabbling with manual 28F3.5 reverse mounted (with tape!) on a manual 200 F4 Q.

    My main interest for now is handheld backyard photography of small insects and flowers. Was looking for input from fellow Nikonites on the following:


    • Resources for beginners in macrophotography - basic do's and don'ts. (If that's too vague, you can instead critique the attached dragonfly pic that I took with the 55 f3.5 Micro on my D3300).
    • Pros / cons of my intended kit: D7100 with 55 f3.5 Micro Nikkor-P.C. I plan to use it with the PK-13 extension tube, and, if needed, with a modified TC-16A teleconverter for added reach and pseudo-AF.
    • Whether other lenses in my kit (listed in my signature) could be used for my intended use, either individually, combined, and with / without the PK-13.
    • What other equipment (lenses / tubes / etc.) I should consider buying if this hobby takes off.


    Thanks!

    Blue Dasher, Female by p.g.photo.graphy, on Flickr


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    Last edited by gustafson; 05-19-2016 at 08:41 PM. Reason: Added dragonfly photo
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    D3300: 18-55 DX VR II, 55-200 DX VR II, 35 f/1.8 DX
    D7100: 200 f/4 Nikkor Q.C Ai'd, 180 f/2.8 P.C Ai'd, 135 f/2.8 Q Ai'd, 105 f/2.5 Ai-s, 100 f/2.8 E, 75-150 f/3.5 E, 55 f/3.5 P.C Micro Ai'd (w/ PK-13), 50 f/1.8 AF, 50 f/1.8 E, 28 f/2.8 Ai-s, 28 f/3.5 H Ai'd, modified TC-16A, 18-55 DX VR, 55-200 DX VR



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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    One thing you might want to look into is photo-stacking software. Very many times, a macro shot is made of multiple images with a slight shift in focus... the software stacks those images so that all parts of the image are in focus... as an example, in your dragonfly, the head is in focus but his tail is NOT, and neither is his wings.. because of the short DOF at that range. 6 or 7 shots, refocusing on the different parts and then using focus stacking software to stack those images would result in all parts of the dragonfly being in tack-sharp focus...
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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    Thanks for the tip, @FredKingston! I was wondering how others were getting all of the insect in focus.

    A related question on insects: what does it take to resolve the compound eyes of dragonflies, as in this photo? Is it even possible with my intended rig?

    https://flic.kr/p/6A1daK


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    D3300: 18-55 DX VR II, 55-200 DX VR II, 35 f/1.8 DX
    D7100: 200 f/4 Nikkor Q.C Ai'd, 180 f/2.8 P.C Ai'd, 135 f/2.8 Q Ai'd, 105 f/2.5 Ai-s, 100 f/2.8 E, 75-150 f/3.5 E, 55 f/3.5 P.C Micro Ai'd (w/ PK-13), 50 f/1.8 AF, 50 f/1.8 E, 28 f/2.8 Ai-s, 28 f/3.5 H Ai'd, modified TC-16A, 18-55 DX VR, 55-200 DX VR

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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    That would be the same thing... at those distances, DOF is measured in thousands of an inch... you start by front focusing the image and taking sequential shots, adjusting the focus in until you've captured a 1/2 dozen (or more) sequential shots and then use the software to assemble the shots...

    Look into what's called a "focus rail"... at those distances, you don't really adjust the lens, you adjust the distance of the camera.... a focus rail allows you to mount the camera on the tripod, and then by turning a knob on the rail, it physically moves the camera incrementally forward a thousandth of an inch...
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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    Quote Originally Posted by FredKingston View Post
    That would be the same thing... at those distances, DOF is measured in thousands of an inch... you start by front focusing the image and taking sequential shots, adjusting the focus in until you've captured a 1/2 dozen (or more) sequential shots and then use the software to assemble the shots...

    Look into what's called a "focus rail"... at those distances, you don't really adjust the lens, you adjust the distance of the camera.... a focus rail allows you to mount the camera on the tripod, and then by turning a knob on the rail, it physically moves the camera incrementally forward a thousandth of an inch...
    Fascinating! Thanks for letting me know about it.
    D3300: 18-55 DX VR II, 55-200 DX VR II, 35 f/1.8 DX
    D7100: 200 f/4 Nikkor Q.C Ai'd, 180 f/2.8 P.C Ai'd, 135 f/2.8 Q Ai'd, 105 f/2.5 Ai-s, 100 f/2.8 E, 75-150 f/3.5 E, 55 f/3.5 P.C Micro Ai'd (w/ PK-13), 50 f/1.8 AF, 50 f/1.8 E, 28 f/2.8 Ai-s, 28 f/3.5 H Ai'd, modified TC-16A, 18-55 DX VR, 55-200 DX VR

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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    I have never tried stacking myself. I might need to try that sometime if I figure out how to do the blending it all together right.
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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    There's no blending Bill... it's specialized software...
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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C
    I don't know your lens, but here is a dragonfly with the Tamron 60mm. 1/200, F32, handheld with autofocus (af-c single point) and flash. I think it was the on board flash. Its a fairly heavy crop. The tamron is fairly short physically, so I get good luck with the on board light clearing the end of the lens. Some here use homemade diffusers. Try to get as square on to the bug as possible to minimize depth. Also balance backing up and cropping vs getting real close. You will get a larger depth of field by backing up but of course lose pixels in cropping.

    I've since learned if I am using flash to get the high aperture, I also need to get my shutter speed up to max sync speed to minimize the effect of ambient light blurring the shot if it is a bright day. If the sun is bright enough, I can get a decent shot without flash, but need a fairly high shutter speed to be sharp and I can't use the way high apertures. Flash is easier. There are some other macros in my gallery, I think they are all with flash and high aperture.

    Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C-d7k_7356.jpg
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    I must have a really good camera.

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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    One thing I can think of is either a ring flash or a normal external flash with a diffuser. Used in manual mode, this can freeze the moment and help you get a smaller aperture for more dof.
    Test, trial and error and you should be able to produce great shots.
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    Re: Help with macrophotography on D7100 with 55 f3.5 P.C

    Where can you get this software buddy? Or is it in lightroom or Photoshop somewhere? I might want to try photo stacking sometime with one of my spider subjects!lol

    Quote Originally Posted by FredKingston View Post
    One thing you might want to look into is photo-stacking software. Very many times, a macro shot is made of multiple images with a slight shift in focus... the software stacks those images so that all parts of the image are in focus... as an example, in your dragonfly, the head is in focus but his tail is NOT, and neither is his wings.. because of the short DOF at that range. 6 or 7 shots, refocusing on the different parts and then using focus stacking software to stack those images would result in all parts of the dragonfly being in tack-sharp focus...
    ------------------------Tripods-------------------------------
    GITZO GT2541EX 6X carbon fiber tripod and ARCA SWISS Z1 DP ball head
    GITZO G2220 aluminium tripod and ARCA SWISS Z1 SP ball head
    ------------------------Backpacks----------------------------
    Tamrac Expedition 8X, Tamrac Expedition 8,Tamrac Expedition 5





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