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    First try: the Milky Way shots

    First try: the Milky Way shots
    Hi, On Father's day, I went to a friend's nut-tree farm to celebrate the beginning of the summer. Where I stayed until late night and tried my first MW shots:

    Site condition: (1) it's the outskirt of the city -- in the brown zone of light pollution (Bortle scale=5) vs the red zone (BS=6~7) in the city, so not the best place but better than in the city. (2) no moon. (3)much open sky view without closed buildings.

    Mistakes made: (1) times shots taken -- checked with photopills @11:30 for the best visibility, but shots were mistakenly taken at 10:30. (2) aware of the heavy light pollution, iso was mistakenly set @400 resulting in under-exposed images. (3) ?

    Next step: (1) "MAY" acquire a new Rokinon or Samyang 14mm f2.8 (2) plan a camping trip to Sierra Mt, there will be green (bs=4), blue (bs=3), greyish black (bs=2), and black (bs=1) light pollution zones all across the route planned. Would like to receive your opinion on which zone to go for the MW shots? (Light Pollution Atlas seems not to endorse bs=1,2 as best condition for the MW view as some user states "Rising Milkyway confuses some into thinking it's dawn".)

    First try: the Milky Way shots-2020-06-21-22.18.15-dt-nik3-s.jpeg

    First try: the Milky Way shots-2020-06-21-22.33.48_01-dt-dfine-vz-outsharp-vzblue-s.jpeg

    First try: the Milky Way shots-2020-06-21-22.35.20-dt-dfine-vz-outputsharp-s.jpeg


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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    They look great. Congratulations on capturing the Milky Way.
    "Remember to gaze up at the night sky because there is a little bit of the cosmos in each of us."


    Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
    D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, SB-800. RIP-D100
    Sigma 150-600mm DG Contemporary, Sigma 50-150mm f2.8, Tamron 28-75mm f2.8,
    Nikkor Nifty-Fifty.

  3. #3
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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    Thanks, Dawg, for your kind encouragement. I know capturing the MW is still far from "photographing" it right and well. Mind giving your always insightful and helpful thoughts? Thanks

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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    "Practice, practice" is all I can come up with.
    Looks like proper photography to me.
    "Remember to gaze up at the night sky because there is a little bit of the cosmos in each of us."


    Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
    D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, SB-800. RIP-D100
    Sigma 150-600mm DG Contemporary, Sigma 50-150mm f2.8, Tamron 28-75mm f2.8,
    Nikkor Nifty-Fifty.

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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    Ah Ha, just what I need: more practice! Maybe next month when the moon is gone again. The camping trip is planned in Aug as a summer flee though. Thanks again, Dawg.
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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    Ok, would correct the inappropriate perception on the Bortle scale zones (in my OP):
    Black zone: bs=1, Excellent dark-sky, the Scorpius and Sagittarius regions of the Milky Way cast obvious shadows

    Grayish black: bs=2, Typical truly dark sky, the summer Milky Way is highly structured

    Blue: bs=3, the summer Milky Way still appears complex

    Green, yellow: bs=4, the Milky Way well above the horizon is still impressive but lacks detail

    Orange, brown: bs=5, the Milky Way is very weak or invisible near the horizon, and looks washed out overhead

    Red: bs=6, 7, the Milky Way is only visible near the zenith, the Milky Way is nearly or totally invisible

    Light gray, bs=8, the sky is light gray or orange

    White: bs=9, The sky is brilliantly lit, the only objects to observe are the Moon, the planets, and a few of the brightest star clusters

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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    Nicely done

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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    Thanks, Hobbit.

  9. #9
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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    First try: the Milky Way shots
    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar View Post
    Hi, On Father's day, I went to a friend's nut-tree farm to celebrate the beginning of the summer. Where I stayed until late night and tried my first MW shots:

    Site condition: (1) it's the outskirt of the city -- in the brown zone of light pollution (Bortle scale=5) vs the red zone (BS=6~7) in the city, so not the best place but better than in the city. (2) no moon. (3)much open sky view without closed buildings.

    Mistakes made: (1) times shots taken -- checked with photopills @11:30 for the best visibility, but shots were mistakenly taken at 10:30. (2) aware of the heavy light pollution, iso was mistakenly set @400 resulting in under-exposed images. (3) ?

    Next step: (1) "MAY" acquire a new Rokinon or Samyang 14mm f2.8 (2) plan a camping trip to Sierra Mt, there will be green (bs=4), blue (bs=3), greyish black (bs=2), and black (bs=1) light pollution zones all across the route planned. Would like to receive your opinion on which zone to go for the MW shots? (Light Pollution Atlas seems not to endorse bs=1,2 as best condition for the MW view as some user states "Rising Milkyway confuses some into thinking it's dawn".)

    First try: the Milky Way shots-2020-06-21-22.18.15-dt-nik3-s.jpeg

    First try: the Milky Way shots-2020-06-21-22.33.48_01-dt-dfine-vz-outsharp-vzblue-s.jpeg

    First try: the Milky Way shots-2020-06-21-22.35.20-dt-dfine-vz-outputsharp-s.jpeg
    These images do look ok, as you said they are slightly under-exposed. But this can be fixed in post processing. Do you use LR or something similar?
    Light pollution is a pain and if you can get fully away from it then do so, if not post processing with a graduated filter can reduce the impact.
    Once my LR catalogue is complete I will try and do some simple edits on your milky way shots, the Rokinon 14mm 2.8 is a great lense and suited me for many years.

  10. #10
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    Re: First try: the Milky Way shots

    Thanks, Scott.

    Yeah, I use Darktable (for RAW editing), Gimp, and Nik-collection for the post process. The originally shot images, both raw and jpg, are "extremely" under-exposed. The images I posted already under heavy process (best as I can, but may still miss some). Thank you for the tips and help.





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