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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 725514" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>There's actually 3 AI tools that impact Sharpening. Denoise AI is generally sufficient to bring a clear, in focus image into maximum sharpness. Sharpen AI is available as well and while it's not magic I have used it to take soft images (either slightly missed focus, just a soft lens, or even with slight movement) and make them usable. Then there's Adjust AI which has sections for clarity, detail, and sharpening, and while I would not use it purely for sharpening it is really good at bringing out details without boosting noise - but it takes some playing with to understand how the detail and boost sliders interact (you almost need to use them in opposite directions - add small details, decrease the associated boost).</p><p></p><p>You <strong><em>do not</em></strong> need Sharpen AI if your images are generally in focus, Denoise AI is enough in my experience, particularly when going to Adjust AI next. Sharpen AI is a dog on CPU, so if you need it make sure you have nothing else open. And for both Denoise and Sharpen make sure you open them up first with no image and turn off the Auto Preview switch as you can wind up waiting minutes every time you nudge a slider, though Sharpen is far worse. </p><p></p><p>My workflow has basically become:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Use Lightroom to crop and straighten, applying lens profile correction and white balance. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Denoise AI to remove noise and apply sharpening (I may also play with the auto light correction) </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Add Levels and or Curves adjustment layer if necessary. If I need to remove anything from the frame it happens here, after Denoise, not before it. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Sharpen AI <u><em>only if I'm trying to save an image</em><br /> </u> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Adjust AI to further clarify and sharpen </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Camera Raw Filter where I'll do all the lighting adjustments I used to do in Lightroom ahead of time. Denoise is most effective when you haven't messed with the light. </li> </ol><p></p><p>From there then it's maybe dodge/burn and whatever other local tweaks I want to apply. I've almost abandoned NiK tools entirely unless I'm going B&W. I'm really impressed with them.</p><p></p><p>Hey, and if any of you wind up buying it you can save an additional 15% if you use <a href="http://topazlabs.refr.cc/jake07" target="_blank">this link</a> to get there (and yes, I get credit for the referral).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 725514, member: 9240"] There's actually 3 AI tools that impact Sharpening. Denoise AI is generally sufficient to bring a clear, in focus image into maximum sharpness. Sharpen AI is available as well and while it's not magic I have used it to take soft images (either slightly missed focus, just a soft lens, or even with slight movement) and make them usable. Then there's Adjust AI which has sections for clarity, detail, and sharpening, and while I would not use it purely for sharpening it is really good at bringing out details without boosting noise - but it takes some playing with to understand how the detail and boost sliders interact (you almost need to use them in opposite directions - add small details, decrease the associated boost). You [B][I]do not[/I][/B] need Sharpen AI if your images are generally in focus, Denoise AI is enough in my experience, particularly when going to Adjust AI next. Sharpen AI is a dog on CPU, so if you need it make sure you have nothing else open. And for both Denoise and Sharpen make sure you open them up first with no image and turn off the Auto Preview switch as you can wind up waiting minutes every time you nudge a slider, though Sharpen is far worse. My workflow has basically become: [LIST=1] [*]Use Lightroom to crop and straighten, applying lens profile correction and white balance. [*]Denoise AI to remove noise and apply sharpening (I may also play with the auto light correction) [*]Add Levels and or Curves adjustment layer if necessary. If I need to remove anything from the frame it happens here, after Denoise, not before it. [*]Sharpen AI [U][I]only if I'm trying to save an image[/I] [/U] [*]Adjust AI to further clarify and sharpen [*]Camera Raw Filter where I'll do all the lighting adjustments I used to do in Lightroom ahead of time. Denoise is most effective when you haven't messed with the light. [/LIST] From there then it's maybe dodge/burn and whatever other local tweaks I want to apply. I've almost abandoned NiK tools entirely unless I'm going B&W. I'm really impressed with them. Hey, and if any of you wind up buying it you can save an additional 15% if you use [URL="http://topazlabs.refr.cc/jake07"]this link[/URL] to get there (and yes, I get credit for the referral). [/QUOTE]
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