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<blockquote data-quote="Stoshowicz" data-source="post: 486212" data-attributes="member: 31397">As far as being sneaky goes....I guess I'm in the same camp as Jsee, exercise in futility is an appropriate term. I think you need to cover ground,look around bushes etc , reasonably quietly yes, but laundry detergent shows up in UV as does hair and fingernails , so basically I am a walking streetlight anyway. I always get seen , but the thing is not to be alarming. Otherwise youre limited to sitting very still, in hot gear, in a single location, like a snake. Snakes may wait a week for a mouse to go by and thats on top of being able to read their urine trails to set up in an ideal location. Break a twig when stuff doesnt know where you are , and it sounds very threatening . BUT&nbsp;&nbsp; I remember early on, creeping slowly up on a snail kite , only to see it ignore an airboat! coming in to the dock , ten feet away from it.&nbsp; Hawks often have a habit of restlessly stopping and then flying a few yards , so some stuff is just primed to move for any reason at all, they may sit still to watch where you are going, and so when you stop, they take off. Going to spots where the wildlife has become habituated to people that are not in cars makes a huge difference. So I figure you should use the system that seems to work for you and understand that some folks will get bird A, and you will get bird B.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stoshowicz, post: 486212, member: 31397"] As far as being sneaky goes....I guess I'm in the same camp as Jsee, exercise in futility is an appropriate term. I think you need to cover ground,look around bushes etc , reasonably quietly yes, but laundry detergent shows up in UV as does hair and fingernails , so basically I am a walking streetlight anyway. I always get seen , but the thing is not to be alarming. Otherwise youre limited to sitting very still, in hot gear, in a single location, like a snake. Snakes may wait a week for a mouse to go by and thats on top of being able to read their urine trails to set up in an ideal location. Break a twig when stuff doesnt know where you are , and it sounds very threatening . BUT I remember early on, creeping slowly up on a snail kite , only to see it ignore an airboat! coming in to the dock , ten feet away from it. Hawks often have a habit of restlessly stopping and then flying a few yards , so some stuff is just primed to move for any reason at all, they may sit still to watch where you are going, and so when you stop, they take off. Going to spots where the wildlife has become habituated to people that are [U]not [/U]in cars makes a huge difference. So I figure you should use the system that seems to work for you and understand that some folks will get bird A, and you will get bird B. [/QUOTE]

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