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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vincent" data-source="post: 483435" data-attributes="member: 15675">I do think this just shows you need to adapt your lens also to the behaviour of the animal you want to take a picture of.On the hide: I do not want it to be the main thing I'm carrying, I saw some good hides, but you would have 2 go with 2 people, one carrying the hide and one the photo equipment.On movement I did the test a few weeks ago, I was fully exposed on a road when I saw a row deer, I froze before it turned the head. It then looked at me but did not react, when I duck to hide they always are gone when I come back up. So it does work on deer. For raptors this is something else, they see body heat, sense heartbeat, etc... other things then avoiding action are needed.</blockquote>