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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clovishound" data-source="post: 847359" data-attributes="member: 50197">I was using the original FTZ. The FTZii was out by then, but I thought I wanted the tripod screw, as I was planning on using a 70-300 that has no tripod collar, and ended up with the 200-500 instead. I wished I had gone for the FTZii, as the tripod screw portion interfered with the arca swiss plate I used on the camera body. Other than that it worked just fine. To be honest, I don't think it's a huge difference between the 200-500 and the 180-600. Having said that, I am really glad I made the switch. Between the internal zoom ( I never really cared much for the traditional external zoom design), and the extra 100mm, it is definitely a nicer, cleaner package. My gut says the Z mount is the sharper, but it's not terribly noticeable. Conventional wisdom is to stick with the adapted 200-500, if you already have one. If you don't, then pony up the extra and get the 180-600. The 200-500 is still available new, and there seem to be plenty available on the used market, likely because folks are trading them in on native Z mount long teles. They are currently on sale for $1200 new and run nearly as much used. Of course, you will have to spring a couple hundred for an adapter, if you go that route, although there is the plus of being able to use it with the D850. The Z mount lens can't be used on a DSLR. Given the features the Z8 has that are a godsend for wildlife work, I would recommend going with the 180-600. I can't say enough good things about the 105. Macro is another big rabbit hole to go down, but it's a fun slide.</blockquote>

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