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<blockquote data-quote="alfaholic" data-source="post: 352957" data-attributes="member: 13066"><p>Thank you very much.</p><p>I agree with everything you said, but I would just remind you that there are some cultural differences between people living in different parts of our planet.</p><p></p><p>I can say two things, first one is that people here very slowly accept any changes, and second thing is that in this country people do not live well as they lived 20 or 30 years a go. We had some nasty wars and conflicts, this country was once soft socialist, now we are still in transition to capitalism which is at its death, so people live hard and earn about 300 Euro per month. </p><p></p><p>When you do not have enough money for your family, and you work some illogical jobs to make money only for food and to pay school for your children, then you do not have time to learn more about art, science, aesthetics, you do not have will to do anything other than survive. </p><p>Everything you can is stick to some old rules your parents had, they lived very well but it was because of the global politics, not because they did not have modern technology, then the next thing you do is to turn to religion and patriotism which is everything to people who does not have anything else in their lives.</p><p></p><p>Yes, photographers here mostly shoot JPG and print straight from the camera, they sell their photos to guests on the weddings, birthdays, baptism, they also get some money from people employed them, so most of them make from 100 to 200 Euro per job, so it is understandable they mostly shoot with D70, D80, D90, D7000, but that is not excuse for not editing their photos.</p><p></p><p>Grey card? Raw? Postprocessing?</p><p>Oh please. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Those are all foreign and nasty words. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I am an amateur, but I would work for half of that price if I can choose to shoot raw and edit my photos.</p><p>But, people think only about money, so if someone ask them to make photos like this they will do it, no matter it is destructive and it will ruin the business globally.</p><p>I would not accept the job if I can have my minimum of quality, but then they will employ someone who will work for 3 times less money, someone who bought some cheap old camera and shoot only jpg with flash directly in the face, but then we are again at the beginning: people generally - employers, do not know anything about photography and quality so the do not care who is photographing and how, they only want their faces to be sharp and that is it.</p><p>If you try to use shallow DOF you are in trouble, they will complain about blurry photos and that just goes on and on...</p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alfaholic, post: 352957, member: 13066"] Thank you very much. I agree with everything you said, but I would just remind you that there are some cultural differences between people living in different parts of our planet. I can say two things, first one is that people here very slowly accept any changes, and second thing is that in this country people do not live well as they lived 20 or 30 years a go. We had some nasty wars and conflicts, this country was once soft socialist, now we are still in transition to capitalism which is at its death, so people live hard and earn about 300 Euro per month. When you do not have enough money for your family, and you work some illogical jobs to make money only for food and to pay school for your children, then you do not have time to learn more about art, science, aesthetics, you do not have will to do anything other than survive. Everything you can is stick to some old rules your parents had, they lived very well but it was because of the global politics, not because they did not have modern technology, then the next thing you do is to turn to religion and patriotism which is everything to people who does not have anything else in their lives. Yes, photographers here mostly shoot JPG and print straight from the camera, they sell their photos to guests on the weddings, birthdays, baptism, they also get some money from people employed them, so most of them make from 100 to 200 Euro per job, so it is understandable they mostly shoot with D70, D80, D90, D7000, but that is not excuse for not editing their photos. Grey card? Raw? Postprocessing? Oh please. :) Those are all foreign and nasty words. :) I am an amateur, but I would work for half of that price if I can choose to shoot raw and edit my photos. But, people think only about money, so if someone ask them to make photos like this they will do it, no matter it is destructive and it will ruin the business globally. I would not accept the job if I can have my minimum of quality, but then they will employ someone who will work for 3 times less money, someone who bought some cheap old camera and shoot only jpg with flash directly in the face, but then we are again at the beginning: people generally - employers, do not know anything about photography and quality so the do not care who is photographing and how, they only want their faces to be sharp and that is it. If you try to use shallow DOF you are in trouble, they will complain about blurry photos and that just goes on and on... :) [/QUOTE]
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