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<blockquote data-quote="nikonbill" data-source="post: 843210" data-attributes="member: 47024"><p>First - great thought for discussion in this modern world.</p><p></p><p>For me I like testing boundaries, being an electrics hobbyist as long as I've been a Photography hobbyist. I like the digital world we live in, but I believe in keeping the original data in my images. When something turns to replacing things I am not opposed at all, however I like when the presenter notes there have been changes made its all fair at that point in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>I do miss film when these discussions come up, acknowledging many of the great film photographers used darkroom techniques in their final possesses. I had a fully manual Pentax KX camera, the only thing in it was a light meter and a manual focus aid a circle with the split line (I really miss that today). My main lens was a Pentax 50mm 1.4 (amazing lens) lens. I used this arrangement from 1979 to 2012. You took photos and sent them off and got back negative's with your prints or slides. You played with some filters and thought of how to take photos. Simple</p><p></p><p>Now today - we all have a darkroom (digitally) the most simple of witch is inside of our cameras. However many think of our internal processors like an old film lab. In reality these internal camera computers now "can" use AI generated effects through picture controls and other shooting adjustments to arrive at the final photo downloaded from the camera. In my opinion nothing we record today can be completely removed from all "manipulation". </p><p></p><p>Most use a computer program as their darkroom, so many options with AI generation we have the ability now to tell a program to do things for us. For me I am currently liking programs without AI assistance, this forces me to understand how processes work takes a bit more of me but as I am now retired it keeps my mind more active. I like getting as close as I can to more expensive automated software with as little money as possible. This just gives me extra enjoyment knowing I created something. </p><p></p><p>This is how the world has changed, I respect the heck out of the photographers who don't want to see photos changed. However to remove one's self from it all you would have to remove yourself from digital photography completely in my humble opinion.</p><p></p><p>With film you could still give the better labs "instructions" in processing or do the processing yourself. These facts many forget puts us right back into this debate.</p><p></p><p>I think we are all "creators" some just use more tools than others how can this be bad?</p><p></p><p>To me a really fine photo is more about composition and the story it tells and if it draws you in. I wish I were more talented in telling a story when taking a photo I work hard at it but its not natural to me.</p><p></p><p>Great idea [USER=50197]@Clovishound[/USER] I hope I've made some sense in my thoughts, as you said it well a "start"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nikonbill, post: 843210, member: 47024"] First - great thought for discussion in this modern world. For me I like testing boundaries, being an electrics hobbyist as long as I've been a Photography hobbyist. I like the digital world we live in, but I believe in keeping the original data in my images. When something turns to replacing things I am not opposed at all, however I like when the presenter notes there have been changes made its all fair at that point in my opinion. I do miss film when these discussions come up, acknowledging many of the great film photographers used darkroom techniques in their final possesses. I had a fully manual Pentax KX camera, the only thing in it was a light meter and a manual focus aid a circle with the split line (I really miss that today). My main lens was a Pentax 50mm 1.4 (amazing lens) lens. I used this arrangement from 1979 to 2012. You took photos and sent them off and got back negative's with your prints or slides. You played with some filters and thought of how to take photos. Simple Now today - we all have a darkroom (digitally) the most simple of witch is inside of our cameras. However many think of our internal processors like an old film lab. In reality these internal camera computers now "can" use AI generated effects through picture controls and other shooting adjustments to arrive at the final photo downloaded from the camera. In my opinion nothing we record today can be completely removed from all "manipulation". Most use a computer program as their darkroom, so many options with AI generation we have the ability now to tell a program to do things for us. For me I am currently liking programs without AI assistance, this forces me to understand how processes work takes a bit more of me but as I am now retired it keeps my mind more active. I like getting as close as I can to more expensive automated software with as little money as possible. This just gives me extra enjoyment knowing I created something. This is how the world has changed, I respect the heck out of the photographers who don't want to see photos changed. However to remove one's self from it all you would have to remove yourself from digital photography completely in my humble opinion. With film you could still give the better labs "instructions" in processing or do the processing yourself. These facts many forget puts us right back into this debate. I think we are all "creators" some just use more tools than others how can this be bad? To me a really fine photo is more about composition and the story it tells and if it draws you in. I wish I were more talented in telling a story when taking a photo I work hard at it but its not natural to me. Great idea [USER=50197]@Clovishound[/USER] I hope I've made some sense in my thoughts, as you said it well a "start" [/QUOTE]
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