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<blockquote data-quote="johnwartjr" data-source="post: 6162" data-attributes="member: 2176"><p>In response to your original dilemma (since that thread is now closed)...</p><p></p><p>In the 90s, I did a lot of sports photography for the 'family' business. We did soccer, baseball, tee ball, basketball, football, pretty much anything.</p><p></p><p>I did group photos, and must say that learning how to pose a group is not something you pick up overnight. </p><p></p><p>There was always a parent on at least one team through the day who wanted to shoot their own picture over my shoulder.</p><p></p><p>Now, I didn't have much choice in the matter, obviously I couldn't tell them to go away, it's a free world, I'm on public property, etc.</p><p></p><p>I found the best thing to do was to ask the parents to wait until I was done, and tell them I'd make sure the group stayed posed until everyone got what they wanted.</p><p></p><p>Did that cost us a few print sales? I imagine so. But, if you have some way to tell them 'no' and tick them off, they aren't likely to buy a print anyways.</p><p>Did it keep distractions to a minimum so the paying customers got the best photos possible? Yes.</p><p></p><p>Too many photographers have 'attitudes'. You only get one trip around this crazy world, well, maybe Pete (and my father in law, very similar story there!) got lucky and got another - but it's pointless to get all bent out of shape over some parent shooting a photo over your shoulder. It isn't going to change a thing! </p><p></p><p>We always took the angle of quality photos at reasonable prices - we could've sold more, we could've pushed customers to buy more, we could've charged more.. but we made enough to pay the crew and support the family.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnwartjr, post: 6162, member: 2176"] In response to your original dilemma (since that thread is now closed)... In the 90s, I did a lot of sports photography for the 'family' business. We did soccer, baseball, tee ball, basketball, football, pretty much anything. I did group photos, and must say that learning how to pose a group is not something you pick up overnight. There was always a parent on at least one team through the day who wanted to shoot their own picture over my shoulder. Now, I didn't have much choice in the matter, obviously I couldn't tell them to go away, it's a free world, I'm on public property, etc. I found the best thing to do was to ask the parents to wait until I was done, and tell them I'd make sure the group stayed posed until everyone got what they wanted. Did that cost us a few print sales? I imagine so. But, if you have some way to tell them 'no' and tick them off, they aren't likely to buy a print anyways. Did it keep distractions to a minimum so the paying customers got the best photos possible? Yes. Too many photographers have 'attitudes'. You only get one trip around this crazy world, well, maybe Pete (and my father in law, very similar story there!) got lucky and got another - but it's pointless to get all bent out of shape over some parent shooting a photo over your shoulder. It isn't going to change a thing! We always took the angle of quality photos at reasonable prices - we could've sold more, we could've pushed customers to buy more, we could've charged more.. but we made enough to pay the crew and support the family. [/QUOTE]
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