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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 261871" data-attributes="member: 14443">youre absolutely right, which is why I said, at most it will be around $600 for a new design. but even $900, its just not worth it. theyre just meh focal lengths IMO. many like 50 but I see it as emergency lens. problem with the HSM model is focus is very problematic. not accurate. I will keep an eye on it but im standing by my decision, $600 is the price im willing to pay, otherwise will get the turtle 50. ken says the 1.8 is faster so might go with that. and since I dont even shoot wide open than save some money on the way.</blockquote>