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<blockquote data-quote="Mike D90" data-source="post: 242711" data-attributes="member: 17556">What I had to understand was this;&nbsp; Birds have a lot of detail in their &quot;construction&quot;.&nbsp; Unlike other animals you need to have the entire body in sharp focus for most photos of a bird.&nbsp; To get the entire body in focus you need an aperture of f/8 or f/11 to give you that much depth of field at the distance you shoot from.You still focus on the eyes though.&nbsp; Focus must be sharp at the eye(s) or all is lost.&nbsp; But, the more of the bird in focus the better the photo.Birds move fast and unpredictably.&nbsp; Faster shutter speed freezes this movement and any camera shake that you will induce.There is a price for this though. You will need to up your ISO to allow it to go to 800 or even 1600 to get exposure.&nbsp; This will give you some grain and noise but software can remove almost all of it.White birds are easy to lose the details in.&nbsp; They tend to over expose.Best of all, and I say it again, is to get close.&nbsp; The closer the better.&nbsp; You lens will have a &quot;sweet spot&quot; and it won't be at full zoom length or at widest aperture.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mike D90, post: 242711, member: 17556"] What I had to understand was this; Birds have a lot of detail in their "construction". Unlike other animals you need to have the entire body in sharp focus for most photos of a bird. To get the entire body in focus you need an aperture of f/8 or f/11 to give you that much depth of field at the distance you shoot from. You still focus on the eyes though. Focus must be sharp at the eye(s) or all is lost. But, the more of the bird in focus the better the photo. Birds move fast and unpredictably. Faster shutter speed freezes this movement and any camera shake that you will induce. There is a price for this though. You will need to up your ISO to allow it to go to 800 or even 1600 to get exposure. This will give you some grain and noise but software can remove almost all of it. White birds are easy to lose the details in. They tend to over expose. Best of all, and I say it again, is to get close. The closer the better. You lens will have a "sweet spot" and it won't be at full zoom length or at widest aperture. [/QUOTE]

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