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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 729770" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>Is Topaz expensive? It ain't cheap. But there are always discount codes.</p><p></p><p>Here's the way I look at it... </p><p></p><p>I bought ON1 back in version 8. They put out 8.x and asked me to pay for it. I griped and they gave me a free upgrade. They upped to 9 and I had to pay. I didn't.</p><p></p><p>I bought NiK back before Google bought it and gave it away. Now even though I have receipts from back in the day DxO wants me to buy it again with no promise of free future upgrades. No thanks.</p><p></p><p>I use Lr/Ps and pay monthly to keep it active and get the upgrades as they come in. It's a chunk of change every year but they have made consistent improvements over time that I'm more than happy with so they keep my business.</p><p></p><p>Topaz? I bought their bundle a while back when it was on sale. It saved me 40% on each tool individually and even though I knew I would barely use some of them the bundle cost saved me enough where it was a break even. Now when they introduce a new product if I want it I can repurchase the bundle and they prorate the price at the bundle price minus everything I already have, so I'm saving more. Better than that from a price perspective, never once have I been asked to pay for the latest version. Buy once use forever. I'm OK with that.</p><p></p><p>Better than that, after 9 years of shooting and trying this and trying that I now have tools that have utterly streamlined my workflow for wildlife. No more do I have to wonder if this would have been better if I'd used Nik Dfine for noise instead of ACR, the first thing I do with every image no matter the ISO is to run it thru Denoise. To date I've not found any of the artifacts that I used to get from other denoise functions if I choose to ramp up the structure.</p><p></p><p>If you're finding that it's "no better than Lightroom" then you haven't had to deal with extremes - and that's perfectly OK. If you're exposing right then under nominal conditions you're probably not going to see much of a difference. But when you've maxed out ISO and lighting conditions have forced you to underexpose by a couple stops then you're going to be fighting the image not just to get rid of the noise but to keep it gone every time you tweak the lighting. Been there, got the shots no one has seen because of it. But now I'm going back through time and reprocessing stuff that just could not be processed in the day. Some of that has been improved in the tools I've used, but when I look in the layer stack of the PSD file that didn't quite work and see all the adjustments that I find myself no longer needing to do, I'm considering the couple hundred bucks I've spent on these products to have more than paid for in time spent with each image.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 729770, member: 9240"] Is Topaz expensive? It ain't cheap. But there are always discount codes. Here's the way I look at it... I bought ON1 back in version 8. They put out 8.x and asked me to pay for it. I griped and they gave me a free upgrade. They upped to 9 and I had to pay. I didn't. I bought NiK back before Google bought it and gave it away. Now even though I have receipts from back in the day DxO wants me to buy it again with no promise of free future upgrades. No thanks. I use Lr/Ps and pay monthly to keep it active and get the upgrades as they come in. It's a chunk of change every year but they have made consistent improvements over time that I'm more than happy with so they keep my business. Topaz? I bought their bundle a while back when it was on sale. It saved me 40% on each tool individually and even though I knew I would barely use some of them the bundle cost saved me enough where it was a break even. Now when they introduce a new product if I want it I can repurchase the bundle and they prorate the price at the bundle price minus everything I already have, so I'm saving more. Better than that from a price perspective, never once have I been asked to pay for the latest version. Buy once use forever. I'm OK with that. Better than that, after 9 years of shooting and trying this and trying that I now have tools that have utterly streamlined my workflow for wildlife. No more do I have to wonder if this would have been better if I'd used Nik Dfine for noise instead of ACR, the first thing I do with every image no matter the ISO is to run it thru Denoise. To date I've not found any of the artifacts that I used to get from other denoise functions if I choose to ramp up the structure. If you're finding that it's "no better than Lightroom" then you haven't had to deal with extremes - and that's perfectly OK. If you're exposing right then under nominal conditions you're probably not going to see much of a difference. But when you've maxed out ISO and lighting conditions have forced you to underexpose by a couple stops then you're going to be fighting the image not just to get rid of the noise but to keep it gone every time you tweak the lighting. Been there, got the shots no one has seen because of it. But now I'm going back through time and reprocessing stuff that just could not be processed in the day. Some of that has been improved in the tools I've used, but when I look in the layer stack of the PSD file that didn't quite work and see all the adjustments that I find myself no longer needing to do, I'm considering the couple hundred bucks I've spent on these products to have more than paid for in time spent with each image. [/QUOTE]
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