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<blockquote data-quote="spb_stan" data-source="post: 679885" data-attributes="member: 43545"><p>The Youtube Gurus and 1-slot crying looks pretty silly to me. The one making a big deal are not pro photographers but are claiming to speak for them. Two points need to be kept in mind:</p><p>1. These Youtube photo gurus have a strong incentive you to to not consider the Nikon. Their income is from affiliate links and kickbacks from stores and in some cases, manufacturers. They lose income if you do not buy now, from their website/channel. If you decide on waiting a couple months they might not get the referral, so they only want to push what is in-stock now. Sony is well known for direct support of a few of these gurus since giving them a few thousand a month to hype the cameras they save hundreds of thousands a month on ads in the conventional web, Google, FB and print promotion.</p><p></p><p>2. They are intentionally distorting the case or are ignorant of the tech involved. Notice that "slots" are generic and not mentioning the fact that it is NOT a cheap consumer grade of media. They know everyone will buy the argument because slot means SD for 90%.</p><p></p><p>SD was designed as a very low-cost alternative to parallel bus CF cards and memory sticks. They were designed to be cheap enough to use in low-end consumer products and were never considered for pro applications. Why? Their serial interface is too fragile and it is not fault-tolerant. Everyone who has taken lots of photos knows that they are fragile mechanically and electronically. Everyone has 1 or many fail;. I have lost data on a number of them. Several manufacturers got together and proposed developing a card system designed from day 1 to be pro-grade, reliable, fault tolerant, rugged and rugged. The result was the XQD card. It has many advantages and a big disadvantage. The disadvantage is that they are expensive to make and buy, plus they are so reliable the sales volume will be lower than for SD cards which generate sales due to needing more for backup.</p><p></p><p>The card is really a system, a new data buss, new socket and more advanced interface chipsets. The result has been quite successful in meeting the design goals. Sony was one of the main developers and their MTBF rating on it is very long, and they use it on their pro products such as $50,000 cameras and controllers. It is too expensive to put in their consumer grade cameras, such as the relatively low cost a7 series that was designed to a price point. They also left out weather sealing and rugged construction suggesting that they will eventually come out with a pro line of cameras.</p><p>Reliable? As the main maker of XQD Sony says they have had 1 card fail, out of millions sold. That confirms the Mean Time Between Failure figures they were quoting before it was available for sale.</p><p>The odds of an XQD card failing with loss of data is lower than 2 SD cards!</p><p>I have been a moderator(inactive now) of the largest Nikon community and we did a survey asking people how they used their 2 slots on the cameras that had two. The vast majority of respondents reply Slot 1 NEF slot2 JPG. Few used the #2 slot for mirroring. More used it for overflow than mirroring. So when I read all the angst over 1 slot because "no pro can work without 2 slots for backup" I knew it was a bogus argument. Many of these reports were working pros. </p><p></p><p>The XQD has some real advantages for other camera function also. Remember when the "pro" Sony a9 came out, with 2 SD slots as Sony's only camera with 2 slots, it was promoted as a sports/action/BIF camera for the pros. One thing that they did not mention was if you filled the buffer, the camera was dead for up to 2 minutes that was required to clear the buffer into slow SD cards.</p><p>Others complained the Z was not pro, another Deal Breaker, because of the small buffer. It IS small, but since the bus and card is so fast(and can be partitioned) it clears the 47Mpx raw images in 1 second. That means if you were using burst mode, the longest time for dead time is 1 second. If you shot 1 less shot than full buffer, it will clear before you ever run out. </p><p>But all this assumes cards are the future for pro serious work. That clearly is not the trend and only Nikon addressed that in any of the new offerings on the market. They, rightly I believe, think pros and advanced amateurs alike with use RF links directly to storage devices, editing computers, networks etc. The built-in WiFi can deliver JPGs in almost real time but for pros, Nikon has the WT-7 adaptor that attached to the bottom of the camera and gives dual band 1Gigabit per second data transfer with error correction, to receivers within 660feet!. Need more backup? Bring 2-3, 12 laptops or a network drive and have real-time file transfers to a slide show computer(for events and weddings for example) or for commercial shoots using large monitors for the art director and as many as others need to monitor the progress. Or send the files to 1 or more editing workstations to finished image files are ready before the session is even finished....no card sessions.</p><p>Just a few years ago the debate between whether 3.5inch floppies were more reliable than 5.25 inch. That argument was the same as if the future was never to see thumb drives, (100 times faster and 1000 times more capacity or $3) or wireless networks. Who would refuse to buy a computer today that had only 1 floppy drive? For most its "floppy, what is that?" Nikon is the only maker who seems to remember why floppies are not a big deal and understand why SD will be obsolete long before the camera is.</p><p>The fast XQD card and buss of the Z7 is one of the 4 main reasons the only mirrorless I will consider has a "Z" first letter.</p><p></p><p>The other reason some are claiming pros will not buy Z cameras is that of not automatically tracking eyes. That is more revealing of the writer than a defect in a camera design.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spb_stan, post: 679885, member: 43545"] The Youtube Gurus and 1-slot crying looks pretty silly to me. The one making a big deal are not pro photographers but are claiming to speak for them. Two points need to be kept in mind: 1. These Youtube photo gurus have a strong incentive you to to not consider the Nikon. Their income is from affiliate links and kickbacks from stores and in some cases, manufacturers. They lose income if you do not buy now, from their website/channel. If you decide on waiting a couple months they might not get the referral, so they only want to push what is in-stock now. Sony is well known for direct support of a few of these gurus since giving them a few thousand a month to hype the cameras they save hundreds of thousands a month on ads in the conventional web, Google, FB and print promotion. 2. They are intentionally distorting the case or are ignorant of the tech involved. Notice that "slots" are generic and not mentioning the fact that it is NOT a cheap consumer grade of media. They know everyone will buy the argument because slot means SD for 90%. SD was designed as a very low-cost alternative to parallel bus CF cards and memory sticks. They were designed to be cheap enough to use in low-end consumer products and were never considered for pro applications. Why? Their serial interface is too fragile and it is not fault-tolerant. Everyone who has taken lots of photos knows that they are fragile mechanically and electronically. Everyone has 1 or many fail;. I have lost data on a number of them. Several manufacturers got together and proposed developing a card system designed from day 1 to be pro-grade, reliable, fault tolerant, rugged and rugged. The result was the XQD card. It has many advantages and a big disadvantage. The disadvantage is that they are expensive to make and buy, plus they are so reliable the sales volume will be lower than for SD cards which generate sales due to needing more for backup. The card is really a system, a new data buss, new socket and more advanced interface chipsets. The result has been quite successful in meeting the design goals. Sony was one of the main developers and their MTBF rating on it is very long, and they use it on their pro products such as $50,000 cameras and controllers. It is too expensive to put in their consumer grade cameras, such as the relatively low cost a7 series that was designed to a price point. They also left out weather sealing and rugged construction suggesting that they will eventually come out with a pro line of cameras. Reliable? As the main maker of XQD Sony says they have had 1 card fail, out of millions sold. That confirms the Mean Time Between Failure figures they were quoting before it was available for sale. The odds of an XQD card failing with loss of data is lower than 2 SD cards! I have been a moderator(inactive now) of the largest Nikon community and we did a survey asking people how they used their 2 slots on the cameras that had two. The vast majority of respondents reply Slot 1 NEF slot2 JPG. Few used the #2 slot for mirroring. More used it for overflow than mirroring. So when I read all the angst over 1 slot because "no pro can work without 2 slots for backup" I knew it was a bogus argument. Many of these reports were working pros. The XQD has some real advantages for other camera function also. Remember when the "pro" Sony a9 came out, with 2 SD slots as Sony's only camera with 2 slots, it was promoted as a sports/action/BIF camera for the pros. One thing that they did not mention was if you filled the buffer, the camera was dead for up to 2 minutes that was required to clear the buffer into slow SD cards. Others complained the Z was not pro, another Deal Breaker, because of the small buffer. It IS small, but since the bus and card is so fast(and can be partitioned) it clears the 47Mpx raw images in 1 second. That means if you were using burst mode, the longest time for dead time is 1 second. If you shot 1 less shot than full buffer, it will clear before you ever run out. But all this assumes cards are the future for pro serious work. That clearly is not the trend and only Nikon addressed that in any of the new offerings on the market. They, rightly I believe, think pros and advanced amateurs alike with use RF links directly to storage devices, editing computers, networks etc. The built-in WiFi can deliver JPGs in almost real time but for pros, Nikon has the WT-7 adaptor that attached to the bottom of the camera and gives dual band 1Gigabit per second data transfer with error correction, to receivers within 660feet!. Need more backup? Bring 2-3, 12 laptops or a network drive and have real-time file transfers to a slide show computer(for events and weddings for example) or for commercial shoots using large monitors for the art director and as many as others need to monitor the progress. Or send the files to 1 or more editing workstations to finished image files are ready before the session is even finished....no card sessions. Just a few years ago the debate between whether 3.5inch floppies were more reliable than 5.25 inch. That argument was the same as if the future was never to see thumb drives, (100 times faster and 1000 times more capacity or $3) or wireless networks. Who would refuse to buy a computer today that had only 1 floppy drive? For most its "floppy, what is that?" Nikon is the only maker who seems to remember why floppies are not a big deal and understand why SD will be obsolete long before the camera is. The fast XQD card and buss of the Z7 is one of the 4 main reasons the only mirrorless I will consider has a "Z" first letter. The other reason some are claiming pros will not buy Z cameras is that of not automatically tracking eyes. That is more revealing of the writer than a defect in a camera design. [/QUOTE]
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