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Message: <blockquote data-quote="foo" data-source="post: 279609" data-attributes="member: 22513">Thanks I do seem to start with 5 6 8 secs and work from there bearing in mind ,I always have used manual lenses . Its just I'm new to night photos with this camera.My last camera seemed to have more colour depth but it may be the lens or because I have the nikon set on neutral.I have not used the kit lens yet for night shots , I might give that a try later. Trouble is where I live there is nothing much of interest so I get my practice here before going back home and getting a lot  more subject matter.Anyhow thanks.Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk</blockquote>