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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stoshowicz" data-source="post: 569341" data-attributes="member: 31397">I google mapped to see what these places look like .. I couldnt really get an idea of what theyre like on the ground , it looks like your big wild areas like cleveland are really rugged , maybe to the extent that you cant really get in there? Ours tend to be low and wet marshy areas... so you just dont Want to get in there. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />  Lake helmet looks adjacent to some nice wild areas Yorba looked like an apartment complex though.</blockquote>