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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TonyD315" data-source="post: 431584" data-attributes="member: 19804"><p>Thanks for the sound advice and encouragement.  Honestly, I was torn between the Nikon and the Tokina.  I ultimately went with the Nikon because I want to get into some long exposure day shots, like seascapes and waterfalls...the difference between the 4 and 2.8 wouldn't matter there...but it totally matters in this case.  I will definitely give my prime a shot...I don't know off the top of my head, but I would guess the exposure time would be around 20 seconds or just under that until the stars start to trail.  I think I really need to read up on how to edit these shots once I get them. I understand it will take a lot of trial and error.  Thanks again.</p></blockquote><p></p>