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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 606793" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>The DNG conversion doesn't lose or even change the available raw data, it just changes the file structure. Camera Raw/Lightroom then interprets the light information within that file based on the camera model defaults Adobe engineers have specified, and <strong><em>this</em></strong> is where the issue is - with the interpretation, not the conversion. This is something that was corrected in the release of ACR/Lr that fully supported the D750, but according to some (Nasim from Photography Life in particular) even the final release had color issues compared to Capture NX-D and other raw converters. </p><p></p><p>There are more than a few people who aren't crazy about the way Adobe interprets raw file colors off the bat (see <a href="https://photographylife.com/adobes-poor-handling-of-raw-files" target="_blank">here</a>) and I see their point. I've personally invested a lot of time into learning Lr & Ps, so I'm less concerned with the idea that I have to adjust to Adobe's defaults for my work because I'm not someone who needs to process hundreds of raw files every day for customers, I do my work for myself and "fixing" colors is all a part of it. Only when I'm doing something like product shots for a friend's website will I painstakingly worry about getting colors absolutely spot on, in which case I'll use a color checker on site so I can create a custom camera profile when I get back. That's something that pros will do anyway <em>regardless</em> of their raw converter because it <u>always</u> has to be spot on.</p><p></p><p>What I personally don't like about DNG's is that unless you back up the original NEF file you lose what some consider to be the "unaltered original", which can sometimes be required as proof for a contest photo. Not all contests consider a DNG as "altered", but some do, so I'd rather keep that around. In cases like the D750 what I did was create TIFFs for all my NEF files and keep them in the same directory in my Lr catalog. Once Adobe caught up I imported all the NEF files and copied my Lr settings from the TIFF file to the NEF file (this was a little tedious, but not awful), then deleted the TIFF files. As a rule I don't save Ps edits to a TIFF, I use PSDs, so all the Photoshop edits were preserved. (Note: you can actually choose to embed the raw file into the DNG on conversion which technically means you can extract it later, but that just makes for an even bigger raw file)</p><p></p><p>Now your Sony thing is weird. I suspect it's just that the first time you imported them into Lr you used <strong>Copy as DNG</strong> instead of just <strong>Copy</strong> and it has continued to use that setting for that camera (under preferences there's a box that can be checked to have import presets be camera specific). Next time you import use Copy instead and it'll stay that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 606793, member: 9240"] The DNG conversion doesn't lose or even change the available raw data, it just changes the file structure. Camera Raw/Lightroom then interprets the light information within that file based on the camera model defaults Adobe engineers have specified, and [B][I]this[/I][/B] is where the issue is - with the interpretation, not the conversion. This is something that was corrected in the release of ACR/Lr that fully supported the D750, but according to some (Nasim from Photography Life in particular) even the final release had color issues compared to Capture NX-D and other raw converters. There are more than a few people who aren't crazy about the way Adobe interprets raw file colors off the bat (see [URL="https://photographylife.com/adobes-poor-handling-of-raw-files"]here[/URL]) and I see their point. I've personally invested a lot of time into learning Lr & Ps, so I'm less concerned with the idea that I have to adjust to Adobe's defaults for my work because I'm not someone who needs to process hundreds of raw files every day for customers, I do my work for myself and "fixing" colors is all a part of it. Only when I'm doing something like product shots for a friend's website will I painstakingly worry about getting colors absolutely spot on, in which case I'll use a color checker on site so I can create a custom camera profile when I get back. That's something that pros will do anyway [I]regardless[/I] of their raw converter because it [U]always[/U] has to be spot on. What I personally don't like about DNG's is that unless you back up the original NEF file you lose what some consider to be the "unaltered original", which can sometimes be required as proof for a contest photo. Not all contests consider a DNG as "altered", but some do, so I'd rather keep that around. In cases like the D750 what I did was create TIFFs for all my NEF files and keep them in the same directory in my Lr catalog. Once Adobe caught up I imported all the NEF files and copied my Lr settings from the TIFF file to the NEF file (this was a little tedious, but not awful), then deleted the TIFF files. As a rule I don't save Ps edits to a TIFF, I use PSDs, so all the Photoshop edits were preserved. (Note: you can actually choose to embed the raw file into the DNG on conversion which technically means you can extract it later, but that just makes for an even bigger raw file) Now your Sony thing is weird. I suspect it's just that the first time you imported them into Lr you used [B]Copy as DNG[/B] instead of just [B]Copy[/B] and it has continued to use that setting for that camera (under preferences there's a box that can be checked to have import presets be camera specific). Next time you import use Copy instead and it'll stay that way. [/QUOTE]
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