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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Roy1961" data-source="post: 571809" data-attributes="member: 12541">still don't know about the Gnatcatcher, don't? think it is a black capped, all pic's I saw shows a definitive black cap, searched also Cali gnatcatcher, don't think its it either, so ????.My first impression this was a green heron, then I watched it stick its neck in the air and sit there for a while, I did read this was a trait of the bittern for camouflage, also I thought the green around its beak was a sign of mating, meaning adult not juvi? but looking a juvi green herons you may be right. confused.com lolI will post another bird just to be sure of keeping my tread going, thanks for your help [USER=31397]@Stoshowicz[/USER]</blockquote>