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<blockquote data-quote="RockyNH_RIP" data-source="post: 116319" data-attributes="member: 10784">Marcel, good points, thank you!&nbsp;&nbsp; You may have nailed part of it for sure!I did remove the umbrellas but had terrible exposure on the bubbles, like not enough light...&nbsp; as I increased exposure I made the background worse yet....&nbsp; &nbsp; Unlike the water drops, control of the bubbles relative to the light was nil...&nbsp; &nbsp; Hindsight, I think the bubbles were not well enough in the light stream as the speedlignts were too close (especially without the &quot;spread&quot; of the umbrella...&nbsp;&nbsp; They were above, below or front or back...&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Had I tried your suggestion:&nbsp; &quot;I'd keep the flash oriented the same way and maybe back them up a little and turn them toward the camera just a bit.&quot;, I think that might have fixed my issues when I did try raw speedlights!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; I did not think of that so went back to umbrellas.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is where I need to practice/learn/practice more...&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I never thought of moving the lights Back.&nbsp;&nbsp; DUHHHH!&nbsp;&nbsp; Thats why I am a rookie!&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Marcel, Thanks for the kind words and especially for the critique and suggestions...&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I think you may have hit the nail and I will try it again one day and see if I can improve...Pat in NH</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RockyNH_RIP, post: 116319, member: 10784"] Marcel, good points, thank you! You may have nailed part of it for sure! I did remove the umbrellas but had terrible exposure on the bubbles, like not enough light... as I increased exposure I made the background worse yet.... Unlike the water drops, control of the bubbles relative to the light was nil... Hindsight, I think the bubbles were not well enough in the light stream as the speedlignts were too close (especially without the "spread" of the umbrella... They were above, below or front or back... :) Had I tried your suggestion: [I][B]"I'd keep the flash oriented the same way and maybe back them up a little and turn them toward the camera just a bit.", [/B][/I]I think that might have fixed my issues when I did try raw speedlights!!! I did not think of that so went back to umbrellas. This is where I need to practice/learn/practice more... I never thought of moving the lights Back. DUHHHH! Thats why I am a rookie! :) Marcel, Thanks for the kind words and especially for the critique and suggestions... I think you may have hit the nail and I will try it again one day and see if I can improve... Pat in NH [/QUOTE]

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