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<blockquote data-quote="RockyNH_RIP" data-source="post: 121520" data-attributes="member: 10784">Scott, thank you for the long and complete reply.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is so much included in there that I will need to read it a few times to digest it all...Umbrella's were white translucent shoot through....&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a backing that will make them opaque and reflective but that is not the mode I used.&nbsp; I wanted to try it to see what it did but ran out of time.&nbsp;&nbsp; It also sounds like it would be less flattering on an &quot;older&quot; subject..&nbsp; &nbsp; I had the umbrellas fairly close in my setup today.Concensus seems to be hair light for seperation and I agree...&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That will be a future addition.I have read of the 2 light setup at 45deg that you mentioned.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, if I understand, that would give a flatter (and more flattering on an older subject) than what I had today..&nbsp;&nbsp; Everything is still setup so I may just make a slight adjustment and try that tomorrow.Back to the setup I had today...&nbsp;&nbsp; a question...&nbsp;&nbsp; reading what you said a 2:1 ration would be flatter and more flattering than say a 4:1?&nbsp;&nbsp; It is obvious that I need to study a bit more on ratio's...&nbsp; &nbsp; Thats ok too, I enjoy learning!&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />I really liked the &quot;informal&quot; example...&nbsp;&nbsp; it looks so naturally lit, not artificial...&nbsp;&nbsp; where was the light positioned as there is very little shadow.&nbsp; I was impressed for just one light.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you find it, I would love to see your &quot;Rand Mcnally&quot; example with the 1:1 ratio..&nbsp; Ok, past my bedtime...&nbsp; &nbsp; will read again tomorrow and see what else I can learn.&nbsp; Again, Thank You for taking that amount of time to teach this old dog a new trick or two!Pat in NH</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RockyNH_RIP, post: 121520, member: 10784"] Scott, thank you for the long and complete reply. There is so much included in there that I will need to read it a few times to digest it all... Umbrella's were white translucent shoot through.... I have a backing that will make them opaque and reflective but that is not the mode I used. I wanted to try it to see what it did but ran out of time. It also sounds like it would be less flattering on an "older" subject.. I had the umbrellas fairly close in my setup today. Concensus seems to be hair light for seperation and I agree... That will be a future addition. I have read of the 2 light setup at 45deg that you mentioned. So, if I understand, that would give a flatter (and more flattering on an older subject) than what I had today.. Everything is still setup so I may just make a slight adjustment and try that tomorrow. Back to the setup I had today... a question... reading what you said a 2:1 ration would be flatter and more flattering than say a 4:1? It is obvious that I need to study a bit more on ratio's... Thats ok too, I enjoy learning! :) I really liked the "informal" example... it looks so naturally lit, not artificial... where was the light positioned as there is very little shadow. I was impressed for just one light. If you find it, I would love to see your "Rand Mcnally" example with the 1:1 ratio.. Ok, past my bedtime... will read again tomorrow and see what else I can learn. Again, Thank You for taking that amount of time to teach this old dog a new trick or two! Pat in NH [/QUOTE]

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