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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Drew Wat" data-source="post: 111301" data-attributes="member: 12274"><p>Hi Rick, Good to know on the 14-24 and the 16-35. I still want to physically see these before making a choice. I trusted the reviews on the 24-70 as I know it was a lens that I wanted. As for the 105 all that I have been reading suggest that ambient light is not the way to go with it and that flash's ( plural ) work better with it or a ring flash. Not that I have any experience with this lens and I am relying on reading several sites for all my info on the benefits and to see if it is really want I want. Most of what I have read is people saying that they do most of the close up work with manual focus and that they turn off the VR. This is the reason why I was thinking about the older 105 over the new one with the VR.</p></blockquote><p></p>