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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Akiviri" data-source="post: 137386" data-attributes="member: 13536">If you don't want the donut bokeh - which would annoy me, you could try a refractor out <a href="http://www.adorama.com/BOW500P.html" target="_blank">Bower T-Mount 500mm F/8 Preset Lens SLY500P</a> I hear they aren't as sharp as the mirror lens ... but I also heard the mirror lens varies wildly in quality, and older is better.Edit: Here's a dpreview post with samples (he says Bower is the same lens in there somewhere) <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3207394" target="_blank">http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3207394</a> Got me thinking about it again lol for something to play with <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>