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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 261786" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>Yes, me and my friend are about getting the moment. I had a discussion with a videographer who said his point was that using a 70-200 2.8 at the chuppa was a compromise. he said, why arent you using primes? I explained to him, that first as wedding photogs (yes, you Scott, you have the touch and the 6th sense) we are there to capture the shots. document it as best we can under the lighting and constraints we are given. THATS OUR MAIN AND PRIOR JOB. its the base. then comes into the equation, quality and art. we also try at the same time to add art and quality to our pictures. meaning, first capture then quality and then art. art is the hardest because its at the compromise of documenting it as it is. boring and correct. quality also takes a HUGE toll on documenting it boring and correct. when youre using a prime youre limiting yourself because in many situation you will not have space to capture and document and then you say to yourself, is it better to lose the shot because I wanted the best quality and capture art into the image. </p><p></p><p>as pros we do all three all together because we are veterans. so you know how to anbticipate and know when you can use primes and when its dangerous chance to lose shots. in the chuppa, its SO STRESSFUL, you cannot even imagine. all you plan for and all your expertise youve gathered from years never gets you ready for things that happen. its happened a few times where I missed the groom breaking the glass. a little girl passed by excatly when I shot, people crowding the chuppa, and the most recent I had was when I was setting my D3 for CH mode to get rapid succession shots, broke the glass before finishing his prayer. </p><p></p><p>now getting back to compromise and using the 2.8 zooms. they are a compromise. they offer flexibility, they offer piece of mind when you know you couldnt have captured the best you could have if you have used primes. when youre under stress in demanding situations that require that you absolutely must have specific shots. I told him for chuppa, a 17-35 is a must on one lens and the other with the 70-200. 24-70 isnt enough in certain ceremonies I did because people crowd the chuppa so much that im practically standing in there with them. it gets really hectic at times. but the zooms offer very quality and flexibilty that allows us to capture the moment first. my style is some posed and some dont bother candid/snipping shots as well. at the dance floor im right there in the middle and I also go out a bit and shoot people dancing without them knowing. when I do BG shots, its a mixture of both. for instance, Ill pose them for shots and between different areas we walk to, I shoot them as they are. if theyre walking hand in hand and talking to one another. stuff like that. </p><p></p><p>See how crowded the chuppa gets. and thats not even crowded. sometimes people are standing on the left and right sides. there are seats but man we get weddings with 300+ people like nothing. trust me, if Joe came here, he would have a difficult time. Ive shot quite a few US weddings... easy peazy. everything is orderly and peole are very well mannered. everything is on time. here? its like a barbaric jungle here.</p><p>[ATTACH]71572[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 261786, member: 14443"] Yes, me and my friend are about getting the moment. I had a discussion with a videographer who said his point was that using a 70-200 2.8 at the chuppa was a compromise. he said, why arent you using primes? I explained to him, that first as wedding photogs (yes, you Scott, you have the touch and the 6th sense) we are there to capture the shots. document it as best we can under the lighting and constraints we are given. THATS OUR MAIN AND PRIOR JOB. its the base. then comes into the equation, quality and art. we also try at the same time to add art and quality to our pictures. meaning, first capture then quality and then art. art is the hardest because its at the compromise of documenting it as it is. boring and correct. quality also takes a HUGE toll on documenting it boring and correct. when youre using a prime youre limiting yourself because in many situation you will not have space to capture and document and then you say to yourself, is it better to lose the shot because I wanted the best quality and capture art into the image. as pros we do all three all together because we are veterans. so you know how to anbticipate and know when you can use primes and when its dangerous chance to lose shots. in the chuppa, its SO STRESSFUL, you cannot even imagine. all you plan for and all your expertise youve gathered from years never gets you ready for things that happen. its happened a few times where I missed the groom breaking the glass. a little girl passed by excatly when I shot, people crowding the chuppa, and the most recent I had was when I was setting my D3 for CH mode to get rapid succession shots, broke the glass before finishing his prayer. now getting back to compromise and using the 2.8 zooms. they are a compromise. they offer flexibility, they offer piece of mind when you know you couldnt have captured the best you could have if you have used primes. when youre under stress in demanding situations that require that you absolutely must have specific shots. I told him for chuppa, a 17-35 is a must on one lens and the other with the 70-200. 24-70 isnt enough in certain ceremonies I did because people crowd the chuppa so much that im practically standing in there with them. it gets really hectic at times. but the zooms offer very quality and flexibilty that allows us to capture the moment first. my style is some posed and some dont bother candid/snipping shots as well. at the dance floor im right there in the middle and I also go out a bit and shoot people dancing without them knowing. when I do BG shots, its a mixture of both. for instance, Ill pose them for shots and between different areas we walk to, I shoot them as they are. if theyre walking hand in hand and talking to one another. stuff like that. See how crowded the chuppa gets. and thats not even crowded. sometimes people are standing on the left and right sides. there are seats but man we get weddings with 300+ people like nothing. trust me, if Joe came here, he would have a difficult time. Ive shot quite a few US weddings... easy peazy. everything is orderly and peole are very well mannered. everything is on time. here? its like a barbaric jungle here. [ATTACH=CONFIG]71572._xfImport[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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