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<blockquote data-quote="Dave_W" data-source="post: 85626" data-attributes="member: 9521"><p>You know, I'd like to talk more about your photo of the boy looking down towards the ground. There's two things I want to say. The first thing is this - The problem with this photo is that we don't know anything about this boy, is he shy? is he in trouble? is he angry? We just don't know. If instead you were taking a photo of a tortured artist or Bob Dylan or if he were wearing a punk tee-shirt with lots of tattoos and piercings, we the viewer would understand what is being said and the photo would work. But with the boy above, the viewer doesn't have enough information to connect his stance with who and what he is. </p><p></p><p>The second thing I want to say is that we here are all photographers and as such everything we say only applies to us and in many respects is complete BS. We've all made up our minds about what is or isn't a good photo and so if you listen too hard to any of us, you'll never find your own vision and will end up being just another one of us. Now I'm not saying our advice isn't good, what I'm saying is that our advice applies more to our photography than to yours. You may well have a whole new vision and a way of presenting your subjects in a manner that we simply don't understand. This is a critical aspect of art, your peers will never like your art and if they do, you stand a good chance your art will not be remembered. There are many celebrated artists who during their lifetimes were considered great but their art didn't make it past their generation. On the other hand, most of the famous artists we think of today were despised by their peers and only appreciated by later generations. Van Gogh is the first to come to mind but there are a host of others out there. In the world of photography the whole "Dead Pan" movement comes to mind. I'm not sure I understand "Dead Pan" artists but I suspect future generations may find them geniuses or may find them idiots, who knows. But certainly they fall into that category of artists who's peers do not like their work.</p><p></p><p>So to distill this all down, take our critique for what it is - our personal beliefs on photography and use them as such. But do not let our beliefs taint your vision of what *your* art should be and not be. Let your art express your vision of the world and run with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave_W, post: 85626, member: 9521"] You know, I'd like to talk more about your photo of the boy looking down towards the ground. There's two things I want to say. The first thing is this - The problem with this photo is that we don't know anything about this boy, is he shy? is he in trouble? is he angry? We just don't know. If instead you were taking a photo of a tortured artist or Bob Dylan or if he were wearing a punk tee-shirt with lots of tattoos and piercings, we the viewer would understand what is being said and the photo would work. But with the boy above, the viewer doesn't have enough information to connect his stance with who and what he is. The second thing I want to say is that we here are all photographers and as such everything we say only applies to us and in many respects is complete BS. We've all made up our minds about what is or isn't a good photo and so if you listen too hard to any of us, you'll never find your own vision and will end up being just another one of us. Now I'm not saying our advice isn't good, what I'm saying is that our advice applies more to our photography than to yours. You may well have a whole new vision and a way of presenting your subjects in a manner that we simply don't understand. This is a critical aspect of art, your peers will never like your art and if they do, you stand a good chance your art will not be remembered. There are many celebrated artists who during their lifetimes were considered great but their art didn't make it past their generation. On the other hand, most of the famous artists we think of today were despised by their peers and only appreciated by later generations. Van Gogh is the first to come to mind but there are a host of others out there. In the world of photography the whole "Dead Pan" movement comes to mind. I'm not sure I understand "Dead Pan" artists but I suspect future generations may find them geniuses or may find them idiots, who knows. But certainly they fall into that category of artists who's peers do not like their work. So to distill this all down, take our critique for what it is - our personal beliefs on photography and use them as such. But do not let our beliefs taint your vision of what *your* art should be and not be. Let your art express your vision of the world and run with it. [/QUOTE]
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