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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 358154" data-attributes="member: 12496">Yes, the same lossless edits (using the list of the edits).&nbsp; &nbsp; I use Photoshop instead of Lightroom, but both use the same Adobe Raw module (Elements too).&nbsp; There are ways to embed the XMP data into the NEF file, and I assume that is what Lightrooms default must be?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Or maybe Lightroom uses another catalog database to store it?My guess is there must be a preference menu to NOT embed the XMP data into the NEF?&nbsp; Photoshop (Bridge) does have the preference menu to keep the data separate (in the sidecard XMP files).On editing JPG files in the Raw editor, the change list is saved in the JPG file, but the JPG file image is not affected.&nbsp; If you look at that JPG image in another editor, you only see the original JPG, and none of the changes.&nbsp;&nbsp; In the Raw system, you have to output the image to a new JPG that has the changes, for other programs to see it.&nbsp; Like Raw images that way, other programs cannot see it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Note this has substantial benefits...&nbsp; Changes only change the change list, and do not shift the data back and forth - which would NOT be lossless editing.&nbsp; And no new JPG artifacts, until the last final output.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 358154, member: 12496"] Yes, the same lossless edits (using the list of the edits). I use Photoshop instead of Lightroom, but both use the same Adobe Raw module (Elements too). There are ways to embed the XMP data into the NEF file, and I assume that is what Lightrooms default must be? Or maybe Lightroom uses another catalog database to store it? My guess is there must be a preference menu to NOT embed the XMP data into the NEF? Photoshop (Bridge) does have the preference menu to keep the data separate (in the sidecard XMP files). On editing JPG files in the Raw editor, the change list is saved in the JPG file, but the JPG file image is not affected. If you look at that JPG image in another editor, you only see the original JPG, and none of the changes. In the Raw system, you have to output the image to a new JPG that has the changes, for other programs to see it. Like Raw images that way, other programs cannot see it. Note this has substantial benefits... Changes only change the change list, and do not shift the data back and forth - which would NOT be lossless editing. And no new JPG artifacts, until the last final output. [/QUOTE]

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