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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hrphotography" data-source="post: 270189" data-attributes="member: 12231">i know i ask many questions, but if u can help me figure this out. in manual mode, using the built in camera flash, the optical slaved flash fires OK.when i use Sunpak PF30X on camera's hot shoe as a fill flash it works well with both TTL and manual modes (changed in the camera).but when i add an an off camera (old) flash with optical slave (to the same scenario, camera in manual flash mode, sunpak flash connected on camera) something happens and the fill light becomes less than when the slave is turned off. it seems like adding a slave changes the on camera external flash's setting even if the camera is in manual flash mode. [ATTACH]74736[/ATTACH][ATTACH]74737[/ATTACH]</blockquote>