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Nikon Z s 24-70 2.8 vs the f4
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<blockquote data-quote="spb_stan" data-source="post: 718861" data-attributes="member: 43545"><p>I would suggest checking out the 14-30 as probably the optimum combination of traits in a wide angle for your style: reasonable price, small size and great optical performance.</p><p>The 2.8 version of the 24-70 is expensive for the subject you would like to capture. regardless of how great that version is. If the "kit" lens was not as good as it is, it would be easier to justify the larger more expensive lens. But the f/4 really is good and the only limitation is maximum aperture which can be made up for by a stop increase in ISO or the fact that the IBIS is 5.5 stops, allowing you to shoot ridiculously long shutter speeds hand held. I think a better option for people who are more flexible in shooting conditions is to get a used f/4 and for optimum isolation and lowlight, adding with the money saved, the 50 1.8 or 85 1.8 S. I use my f/4 24-70 all the time, every day because the small walking around kit is so light and compact that it fits into a LowePro sling bag that serves the dual purpose of camera bag and man-purse. I doubt you could fine a used 85 1.8 S but there are some 50mm 1.8 S because it has been out over a year. I have both and both are spectacular but differ only in field of view. For me, the 85 is used more but the 50s can serve more subjects. </p><p>In my sling bag is also a SB900 Nikon flash because I use flash a lot, not only in low light but daytime for smoothing hard mid-day shadows. If used properly, a small box of light is useful for almost every scene even if just as a hair light behind the subject. Flash negates the need for wide apertures.Subject isolation is possible with any lens at almost any aperture, and is mostly determined by the ratio of camera-to-subject versus subject-to-background. Moving in closer increases the isolation. This is doubly possible due to the 24-70 f/4 has such a short minimum subject distance. When you really want a near field background to melt into a foggy cloud, the 85 1.8 S is a Bokeh monster.. The 50 is a little more granular to my eye but it is easier to get cream at 85 or 105.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spb_stan, post: 718861, member: 43545"] I would suggest checking out the 14-30 as probably the optimum combination of traits in a wide angle for your style: reasonable price, small size and great optical performance. The 2.8 version of the 24-70 is expensive for the subject you would like to capture. regardless of how great that version is. If the "kit" lens was not as good as it is, it would be easier to justify the larger more expensive lens. But the f/4 really is good and the only limitation is maximum aperture which can be made up for by a stop increase in ISO or the fact that the IBIS is 5.5 stops, allowing you to shoot ridiculously long shutter speeds hand held. I think a better option for people who are more flexible in shooting conditions is to get a used f/4 and for optimum isolation and lowlight, adding with the money saved, the 50 1.8 or 85 1.8 S. I use my f/4 24-70 all the time, every day because the small walking around kit is so light and compact that it fits into a LowePro sling bag that serves the dual purpose of camera bag and man-purse. I doubt you could fine a used 85 1.8 S but there are some 50mm 1.8 S because it has been out over a year. I have both and both are spectacular but differ only in field of view. For me, the 85 is used more but the 50s can serve more subjects. In my sling bag is also a SB900 Nikon flash because I use flash a lot, not only in low light but daytime for smoothing hard mid-day shadows. If used properly, a small box of light is useful for almost every scene even if just as a hair light behind the subject. Flash negates the need for wide apertures.Subject isolation is possible with any lens at almost any aperture, and is mostly determined by the ratio of camera-to-subject versus subject-to-background. Moving in closer increases the isolation. This is doubly possible due to the 24-70 f/4 has such a short minimum subject distance. When you really want a near field background to melt into a foggy cloud, the 85 1.8 S is a Bokeh monster.. The 50 is a little more granular to my eye but it is easier to get cream at 85 or 105. [/QUOTE]
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