Nikon faces backlash over hunting rifle optics

Nikon faces backlash over hunting rifle optics | Amateur Photographer

I really don't see the problem. Most of the hunters I know do more to promote conservation and to protect wildlife than anyone else. It is in their interest to make sure that the wildlife populations stay at a sustainable and healthy numbers.

the last time I went hunting was in the 70's but I think that most of the hunters I know do more to help the animals than Animal welfare charity like Viva! will ever do.

I also know hunters that are great wildlife photographers too. We have some here on the forum.
 

SkvLTD

Senior Member
These protection agencies and groups have far more nutcases than not from what I notice and if say, Nikon wouldn't have made these premium scope, I'm sure Canon or some other company would've taken up the opportunity.
 

carguy

Senior Member
This is a key sentence in that story:

I do not understand and cannot agree with their support for trophy hunting which sends out entirely the wrong message to global photographers who love nature.'

YOU are entitled to your belief and opinion, nothing wrong with that. When you try to push YOUR belief and YOUR opinion on others and try to influence others to ban/boycott/otherwise harm the name and reputation of a company to force that opinion on others, you've crossed the line and need to shut the hell up
. Put your time and energy toward something positive rather than try to make issues out of nothing. So annoying...
 
This is a key sentence in that story:

I do not understand and cannot agree with their support for trophy hunting which sends out entirely the wrong message to global photographers who love nature.'

YOU are entitled to your belief and opinion, nothing wrong with that. When you try to push YOUR belief and YOUR opinion on others and try to influence others to ban/boycott/otherwise harm the name and reputation of a company to force that opinion on others, you've crossed the line and need to shut the hell up
. Put your time and energy toward something positive rather than try to make issues out of nothing. So annoying...

I personally don't know any hunters that support trophy hunting and I don't either. That is a waste of resources. I live in the deep south where hunting is a way of life. Some deer hunters I know don't eat deer meat but they love to hunt. They donate their kills to a local food pantry where processors will butcher the meat and package it to give to the poor. I think that is a great way to every one to win. I love eating fresh game. When prepared and cooked correctly it is probably a much healthier food for us.
 

AC016

Senior Member
Nikon faces backlash over hunting rifle optics | Amateur Photographer

I really don't see the problem. Most of the hunters I know do more to promote conservation and to protect wildlife than anyone else. It is in their interest to make sure that the wildlife populations stay at a sustainable and healthy numbers.

the last time I went hunting was in the 70's but I think that most of the hunters I know do more to help the animals than Animal welfare charity like Viva! will ever do.

I also know hunters that are great wildlife photographers too. We have some here on the forum.

My BS meter just red lined!! My blood pressure really goes up when i hear people go on about hunting and how "inhumane" it is and how it has nothing to do with conservation. Any responsible and seasoned hunter will do their best to kill the animal as quickly as possible. Secondly, most hunters are very responsible when it comes to nature and have no issues with conservation. Nikon has been making rifle scopes for as long as i can remember. Does this mental defective realise that Nikon built bomb sights, periscopes, etc. for the Japanese Imperial Army/Navy/Airforce during WWII ?? Rifle scopes are childs play compared to what they enabled the Japanese military to do. Just another ding-bat with to much time on their hands!
 

carguy

Senior Member
I personally don't know any hunters that support trophy hunting and I don't either. That is a waste of resources. I live in the deep south where hunting is a way of life. Some deer hunters I know don't eat deer meat but they love to hunt. They donate their kills to a local food pantry where processors will butcher the meat and package it to give to the poor. I think that is a great way to every one to win. I love eating fresh game. When prepared and cooked correctly it is probably a much healthier food for us.

Maybe I'm short on hunting lingo. What is the difference between trophy hunting and other forms of hunting? Aren't the animals eventually processed and eaten in both situations? Is trophy hunting more about tagging the biggest/best specimen?
 

AC016

Senior Member
Maybe I'm short on hunting lingo. What is the difference between trophy hunting and other forms of hunting? Aren't the animals eventually processed and eaten in both situations? Is trophy hunting more about tagging the biggest/best specimen?

Trophy hunting is really all about getting the animals head on the wall or the hide layed out on the floor as a carpet. It has nothing to do with "getting food". Of course, many hunters who do hunt to get the meat, do put the head of the animal on the wall. But, trophy hunting is all about getting the head on the wall, nothing else. Ernest Hemingway was a trophy hunter.
 

Eye-level

Banned
Those folks need to go see a slaughterhouse somewhere in North America and then go have a steak dinner and pray for forgiveness...or maybe they should go to a pet rescue and adopt a dog or something
 

carguy

Senior Member
Trophy hunting is really all about getting the animals head on the wall or the hide layed out on the floor as a carpet. It has nothing to do with "getting food". Of course, many hunters who do hunt to get the meat, do put the head of the animal on the wall. But, trophy hunting is all about getting the head on the wall, nothing else. Ernest Hemingway was a trophy hunter.
While the head and or body end up mounted, as long as the rest of the animal is not wasted (processed and eaten by someone) not sure what the difference is.

I'm not a hunter, but I'm a realist. I certainly don't fault hunters, except poachers of course or those who purposely hunt protected species or the young animals for 'sport' and nothing else.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
500 signatures on an electronic petition, eh?

Yeahhhhhh.

I uh... *stokes chin*

I 'magine that has Nikon just about quaking in their collective f/2.8G AF-S boots.
 

piperbarb

Senior Member
I personally don't know any hunters that support trophy hunting and I don't either. That is a waste of resources. I live in the deep south where hunting is a way of life. Some deer hunters I know don't eat deer meat but they love to hunt. They donate their kills to a local food pantry where processors will butcher the meat and package it to give to the poor. I think that is a great way to every one to win. I love eating fresh game. When prepared and cooked correctly it is probably a much healthier food for us.

I live in rural upstate New York. Like the hunters Don knows, I don't know anyone who supports trophy hunting and lives in this area. The only ones who seem to be like that are some of the ones from the metro NY area who just want the antlers, head, or whatever. As far as I am concerned, they can stay east of the Hudson River. BTW, I am not a hunter, but I have seen what happens to land and animals when there is an overpopulation of deer, for instance. It is not a pretty sight.
 

§am

Senior Member
So an award winning photographer has never been to Nikon's website and seen the product lists on offer which includes scopes, and then put two and two together and figured out that Nikon make stuff other than photographic equipment!!!!
Hmmmm!!!!!

I bet this UK charity doesn't condemn other industries in similar fashion... has it accused any steel makers for the guns that the scopes go on, or the clothes makers that make garments which hunters wear, or the shoemakers that make the boots these hunters wear??

Bunch of do gooders with nothing better to do than s**t stir I say!!!!!!!

I won't get into the whole hunting pro/con thing, that's just a whole other world of debate that has gone on since the age of time :)
 
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