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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SkvLTD" data-source="post: 264337" data-attributes="member: 12855">Any kit lens that start with 18-xxx. You won't get enough out of any other wider lenses to justify their prices until you get to FX bodies. DX will always have that crop factor adding x1.5 to any field of view/focal length. What I've personally noticed though, is that some kit lenses like 18-70 are either mislabeled or dialed in to mimic lack of that crop factor as best they can. I've noticed that my old school 50 and 18-70 at the 70 end had about the same field of view, which would contradict 18-70 being, an actual 18-70 instead of ~26-105. That said, I suspect Nikon does some kind of magic to the kit zooms to make them work with DX format better.</blockquote>