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<blockquote data-quote="nikonbill" data-source="post: 843092" data-attributes="member: 47024"><p>[USER=67748]@myststars[/USER] - Thank you for sharing some of your images, this really helps! First point I want to make they are some really nice photos.</p><p></p><p>I am not personally familiar with the Z6 mk1 (don't own one) but from reading what folks think and the fact it has two successors at this point other than low cost it maynot be the "best" choice. The new Z5II is reported to do very well at low light but it is out of the price bracket we need to be in.</p><p></p><p>So this brings me to my recommendation - get into editing after the camera.</p><p></p><p>Disclaimer - I'm just a retired mechanic so I don't have any connection to the software I am going to recommend, every thing is 0 cost (provided you have a PC).</p><p></p><p>Any editors you try will take on a learning curve some steep, but they will give you the reduction in noise you seek and better detail than you will think possible. There are several ways to edit and you will have to find what works for you as this is an extra step. I feel if you are editing in camera (and you are doing great at that from your examples) you can eliminate that step and do it on a PC.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion any addition you make to your gear would require this step to get the quality you desire in your images. So the sooner you get into good editing practice the better for your photography. The biggest plus is its the cheapest way to go even if you had to purchase a PC.</p><p></p><p>So I recommend Affinity Studio version 3 - the maker is now Canva and you simply create an account with just an email using the software is free. I have used Affinity for many years (versions 1 and 2) they do "offer" some AI tools that require a paid subscription I do not use those and for your goals I do not think you need them. This software would be the "easiest" to learn because there are many free tutorials and is in wide spread use. I would be thrilled to share my techniques concerning noise reduction if you like. There are several settings you would want to use so as not to destroy your detail. Learning these is the "price" of free and low cost software.</p><p></p><p>Second recommendation is GIMP and Raw Therapee - Both are open source software (free) they are very popular they have many tutorials as well. This combo is a little harder to learn however its very capable.</p><p></p><p>Affinity has Windows and MAC installers</p><p></p><p>GIMP/Rawtherapy have Windows and Linux versions</p><p></p><p>If you like I can download one of your images and "play" with it to show you what is possible. Not having the RAW file will limit some of the detail retention but it would give you a good idea what is being discussed. I even have the Topaz AI tool Clovishound demoed (it's not free) if you would like to "see" how that would work on one of your photos. I have gotten proficient enough with Affinity I feel I can get better results than using the Topaz software with detail retention I don't use it much anymore.</p><p></p><p>If you take this step you will not regret it, even if you want to purchase software (basically the more you spend the more automated they become) and its the cheapest thing you could do.</p><p></p><p>All the best in your decision</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nikonbill, post: 843092, member: 47024"] [USER=67748]@myststars[/USER] - Thank you for sharing some of your images, this really helps! First point I want to make they are some really nice photos. I am not personally familiar with the Z6 mk1 (don't own one) but from reading what folks think and the fact it has two successors at this point other than low cost it maynot be the "best" choice. The new Z5II is reported to do very well at low light but it is out of the price bracket we need to be in. So this brings me to my recommendation - get into editing after the camera. Disclaimer - I'm just a retired mechanic so I don't have any connection to the software I am going to recommend, every thing is 0 cost (provided you have a PC). Any editors you try will take on a learning curve some steep, but they will give you the reduction in noise you seek and better detail than you will think possible. There are several ways to edit and you will have to find what works for you as this is an extra step. I feel if you are editing in camera (and you are doing great at that from your examples) you can eliminate that step and do it on a PC. In my opinion any addition you make to your gear would require this step to get the quality you desire in your images. So the sooner you get into good editing practice the better for your photography. The biggest plus is its the cheapest way to go even if you had to purchase a PC. So I recommend Affinity Studio version 3 - the maker is now Canva and you simply create an account with just an email using the software is free. I have used Affinity for many years (versions 1 and 2) they do "offer" some AI tools that require a paid subscription I do not use those and for your goals I do not think you need them. This software would be the "easiest" to learn because there are many free tutorials and is in wide spread use. I would be thrilled to share my techniques concerning noise reduction if you like. There are several settings you would want to use so as not to destroy your detail. Learning these is the "price" of free and low cost software. Second recommendation is GIMP and Raw Therapee - Both are open source software (free) they are very popular they have many tutorials as well. This combo is a little harder to learn however its very capable. Affinity has Windows and MAC installers GIMP/Rawtherapy have Windows and Linux versions If you like I can download one of your images and "play" with it to show you what is possible. Not having the RAW file will limit some of the detail retention but it would give you a good idea what is being discussed. I even have the Topaz AI tool Clovishound demoed (it's not free) if you would like to "see" how that would work on one of your photos. I have gotten proficient enough with Affinity I feel I can get better results than using the Topaz software with detail retention I don't use it much anymore. If you take this step you will not regret it, even if you want to purchase software (basically the more you spend the more automated they become) and its the cheapest thing you could do. All the best in your decision [/QUOTE]
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