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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 142485" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>I've already stated it above - there's nothing I don't like about the 24-85mm on my D600 <strong><em>or</em></strong> my D800. I think people suffer from over-reading blogs by people whose reputation is built upon being overly critical. The idea that a D800 is useless unless you equip it with all but the most expensive and hallowed glass is preposterous. Just look at the DxO review of various lenses on the D800 and you'll see that there is plenty of good glass available for it. What the sensor will do is show any and all flaws in the glass - the question is, can you find them? I would wager that the great majority of people on this forum would be hard pressed to see the difference in images shot with the 24-85mm and a 24-70mm f2.8 "Holy Trinity" lens in 95% of the situations in which you might use them. Yes, there will be situations where the weaknesses of the 24-85mm may be glaring (I haven't found them yet), but you need to ask yourself if you'll ever shoot in those situations, and if so, how often?</p><p></p><p>If you're a guitar player then you may be familiar with the phrase "Eric Johnson ears", which refer to the ears of a player who swears he can not only hear but is bothered by the difference in his sound depending on things as minute as how excess guitar cable is wound up, or the way in which a power chord is run behind an amplifier. I'm not doubting he can, but I have to laugh when people mimic those things as if their sound will suffer because of it. So when I read posts like, "You won't be happy with that lens", I have to do the same thing, because it's predominantly based on echoing and extrapolating on someone else's opinion. I've yet to see someone post photos showing glaring examples of how all this glass suffers when stuck in front of this magical sensor, and given how long the camera has been around I would have expected to see it by now. </p><p></p><p>Again, yes, if the lens has a weakness, this sensor will show it. But how "weak" is that weakness? Is it like losing 2 mph on your 100 mph fastball? If so, who cares, because it's still brilliant.</p><p></p><p>I went through my 2013 photo thread and found several specific posts that mate the two things that should never be mated. Have a looksee, and let me know where the flaws are. I'm an amateur with 2 years in, so I'm not claiming to be anything but a decent hobbiest when it comes to taking photos, so please point not to technique but to obvious flaws in the glass that would prevent you from ever using it.</p><p></p><p>(Note: there are some D600 photos mixed in, but the exif data should be accessible in each photo)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version.html#post122114" target="_blank">http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version.html#post122114</a></p><p><a href="http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version.html#post122228" target="_blank">http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version.html#post122228</a></p><p><a href="http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version-3.html#post126922" target="_blank">http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version-3.html#post126922</a></p><p><a href="http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version-3.html#post127296" target="_blank">http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version-3.html#post127296</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 142485, member: 9240"] I've already stated it above - there's nothing I don't like about the 24-85mm on my D600 [B][I]or[/I][/B] my D800. I think people suffer from over-reading blogs by people whose reputation is built upon being overly critical. The idea that a D800 is useless unless you equip it with all but the most expensive and hallowed glass is preposterous. Just look at the DxO review of various lenses on the D800 and you'll see that there is plenty of good glass available for it. What the sensor will do is show any and all flaws in the glass - the question is, can you find them? I would wager that the great majority of people on this forum would be hard pressed to see the difference in images shot with the 24-85mm and a 24-70mm f2.8 "Holy Trinity" lens in 95% of the situations in which you might use them. Yes, there will be situations where the weaknesses of the 24-85mm may be glaring (I haven't found them yet), but you need to ask yourself if you'll ever shoot in those situations, and if so, how often? If you're a guitar player then you may be familiar with the phrase "Eric Johnson ears", which refer to the ears of a player who swears he can not only hear but is bothered by the difference in his sound depending on things as minute as how excess guitar cable is wound up, or the way in which a power chord is run behind an amplifier. I'm not doubting he can, but I have to laugh when people mimic those things as if their sound will suffer because of it. So when I read posts like, "You won't be happy with that lens", I have to do the same thing, because it's predominantly based on echoing and extrapolating on someone else's opinion. I've yet to see someone post photos showing glaring examples of how all this glass suffers when stuck in front of this magical sensor, and given how long the camera has been around I would have expected to see it by now. Again, yes, if the lens has a weakness, this sensor will show it. But how "weak" is that weakness? Is it like losing 2 mph on your 100 mph fastball? If so, who cares, because it's still brilliant. I went through my 2013 photo thread and found several specific posts that mate the two things that should never be mated. Have a looksee, and let me know where the flaws are. I'm an amateur with 2 years in, so I'm not claiming to be anything but a decent hobbiest when it comes to taking photos, so please point not to technique but to obvious flaws in the glass that would prevent you from ever using it. (Note: there are some D600 photos mixed in, but the exif data should be accessible in each photo) [URL]http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version.html#post122114[/URL] [URL]http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version.html#post122228[/URL] [URL]http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version-3.html#post126922[/URL] [URL]http://nikonites.com/project-365-daily-photos/11574-backdoor-hippies-ranchopalooza-inconsistently-posted-images-2013-version-3.html#post127296[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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