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<blockquote data-quote="Fortkentdad" data-source="post: 561713" data-attributes="member: 24285"><p>My quest continues</p><p></p><p>I do have some ultra wide lenses (well as in a 17mm and 20mm zoom) I think that qualifies. Both are 77 mm. My best wide one is the Tammy 24-70. It is an 82mm thread. From what I've read about landscape photography it seems people tend to go wide for the most part. For longer shots I'd probably use my 70-200 2.8, also 77mm. So for a circular ND stopper I've decided on the ICE 82 with a step down ring to 77. I also have an 58 Hoya 8 stop which I can use on my antique 28-80 which is 58, or using a step down ring put it on my 50mm 1.8. That's what I plan on doing re: circular ones. The ICE I want was out of stock the last time I ordered. This would be to get those smooth silky water shots and some special effect shots. </p><p></p><p>But the more I read about landscape photography and filters the more I'm convinced I "need" a graduated ND. Seems the sky and land are seldom the same brightness and either you expose for the sky or you expose for the land, and one or the other will be off. </p><p></p><p>Looked at Cokin P series (and other 84mm filter systems) but they will not work well on a full frame under 24 (some say down to 20?) But not 17mm. Given I want to go that low (that wide) I'd not want to limit myself. I also read that Cokin filters tend to have a pink colour cast. I think I'll pass on Cokin P at least. </p><p></p><p>Cokin Z - works better on FF cameras and goes wider because it is bigger. Colour cast would be the same. This holder also takes other brands of filters but some have said Lee filters don't fit well on Cokin holders. </p><p></p><p>Formatt Hitech - gets mixed reviews, some like them, some don't (suppose that is true of almost everything). Certainly presented as an options for those who want better than Cokin, but don't want to fork over the dollars for a Lee system.</p><p></p><p>Lee it seems is the best of the lot. But you pay more. </p><p></p><p>I'm watching for a Lee set on sale, or may go for a Formatt Hitech set. </p><p></p><p>Formatt Hitech 77mm starter kit: $257 CDN: <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1035479-REG/hitech_ht100ndgsk77_100_x_150mm_soft_edge.html" target="_blank">Formatt Hitech 100 x 125mm Soft-Edge Graduated ND HT100NDGSK77</a> </p><p></p><p>For almost $200 more I can get the Lee starter kit - no ring included: $407 + $44 for 77mm ring: <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/491474-REG/LEE_Filters_SET_RESIN_DIGI_Digital_SLR_Starter_Kit.html" target="_blank">LEE Filters Digital SLR Starter Kit SET-RESIN-DIGI B&H Photo</a> </p><p></p><p>By comparison the Cokin Z-Pro Kit is $191 - no ring and coloured grad set (could be interesting?) <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/387466-REG/Cokin_CU961_Z_PRO_Grad_Filter_Kit.html" target="_blank">Cokin Z-PRO Grad Filter Kit CU961 B&H Photo Video</a> </p><p></p><p>Have not looked into the Cokin X-Pro that much, that starter is $355 with three ND Grad filters <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/307103-REG/Cokin_CW960_X_Pro_W960_Pro_Graduated.html" target="_blank">Cokin X-Pro W960 Pro Graduated Neutral Density Filter Kit CW960</a> </p><p></p><p>I did find that I may save a bit by ordering direct from the UK for Formatt Hitech - and they have more selection of their stuff than B&H.</p><p></p><p>Still muddled.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fortkentdad, post: 561713, member: 24285"] My quest continues I do have some ultra wide lenses (well as in a 17mm and 20mm zoom) I think that qualifies. Both are 77 mm. My best wide one is the Tammy 24-70. It is an 82mm thread. From what I've read about landscape photography it seems people tend to go wide for the most part. For longer shots I'd probably use my 70-200 2.8, also 77mm. So for a circular ND stopper I've decided on the ICE 82 with a step down ring to 77. I also have an 58 Hoya 8 stop which I can use on my antique 28-80 which is 58, or using a step down ring put it on my 50mm 1.8. That's what I plan on doing re: circular ones. The ICE I want was out of stock the last time I ordered. This would be to get those smooth silky water shots and some special effect shots. But the more I read about landscape photography and filters the more I'm convinced I "need" a graduated ND. Seems the sky and land are seldom the same brightness and either you expose for the sky or you expose for the land, and one or the other will be off. Looked at Cokin P series (and other 84mm filter systems) but they will not work well on a full frame under 24 (some say down to 20?) But not 17mm. Given I want to go that low (that wide) I'd not want to limit myself. I also read that Cokin filters tend to have a pink colour cast. I think I'll pass on Cokin P at least. Cokin Z - works better on FF cameras and goes wider because it is bigger. Colour cast would be the same. This holder also takes other brands of filters but some have said Lee filters don't fit well on Cokin holders. Formatt Hitech - gets mixed reviews, some like them, some don't (suppose that is true of almost everything). Certainly presented as an options for those who want better than Cokin, but don't want to fork over the dollars for a Lee system. Lee it seems is the best of the lot. But you pay more. I'm watching for a Lee set on sale, or may go for a Formatt Hitech set. Formatt Hitech 77mm starter kit: $257 CDN: [url=http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1035479-REG/hitech_ht100ndgsk77_100_x_150mm_soft_edge.html]Formatt Hitech 100 x 125mm Soft-Edge Graduated ND HT100NDGSK77[/url] For almost $200 more I can get the Lee starter kit - no ring included: $407 + $44 for 77mm ring: [url=http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/491474-REG/LEE_Filters_SET_RESIN_DIGI_Digital_SLR_Starter_Kit.html]LEE Filters Digital SLR Starter Kit SET-RESIN-DIGI B&H Photo[/url] By comparison the Cokin Z-Pro Kit is $191 - no ring and coloured grad set (could be interesting?) [url=http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/387466-REG/Cokin_CU961_Z_PRO_Grad_Filter_Kit.html]Cokin Z-PRO Grad Filter Kit CU961 B&H Photo Video[/url] Have not looked into the Cokin X-Pro that much, that starter is $355 with three ND Grad filters [url=http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/307103-REG/Cokin_CW960_X_Pro_W960_Pro_Graduated.html]Cokin X-Pro W960 Pro Graduated Neutral Density Filter Kit CW960[/url] I did find that I may save a bit by ordering direct from the UK for Formatt Hitech - and they have more selection of their stuff than B&H. Still muddled. [/QUOTE]
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