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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 230539" data-attributes="member: 9240">Mike, there's not a lot about these shots that needs to be fixed on the shooting end.&nbsp; Most of my bird in flight stuff is right around f8 and while it's nice to be able to shoot at over 1/1000 it's not always necessary, especially with hawks since there's not a lot of wing flapping.&nbsp; And as you learn to follow the bird having the movement behind them is nice.&nbsp; Your biggest issue, as has been pointed out, is your inability to make the most out of what you're shooting in post.&nbsp; You're going to get a lot of backlight with stuff in the sky, so you need to be able to lighten up the underside to bring out the bird without overexposing everything around it.The other thing that you'll learn is that birds always look better coming at you than flying away, so you need to be looking and anticipating the shot.&nbsp; Unfortunately, they're easy to catch once they've gotten to you, you've reacted and started shooting, so you get a lot of bird backsides.&nbsp; It's a part of the deal.&nbsp; Just hang with it.&nbsp; I've spent days shooting where I've thought I nailed some things only to be thoroughly disappointed when I looked at the shots.&nbsp; Keep shooting and keep asking questions and you'll keep getting better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 230539, member: 9240"] Mike, there's not a lot about these shots that needs to be fixed on the shooting end. Most of my bird in flight stuff is right around f8 and while it's nice to be able to shoot at over 1/1000 it's not always necessary, especially with hawks since there's not a lot of wing flapping. And as you learn to follow the bird having the movement behind them is nice. Your biggest issue, as has been pointed out, is your inability to make the most out of what you're shooting in post. You're going to get a lot of backlight with stuff in the sky, so you need to be able to lighten up the underside to bring out the bird without overexposing everything around it. The other thing that you'll learn is that birds always look better coming at you than flying away, so you need to be looking and anticipating the shot. Unfortunately, they're easy to catch once they've gotten to you, you've reacted and started shooting, so you get a lot of bird backsides. It's a part of the deal. Just hang with it. I've spent days shooting where I've thought I nailed some things only to be thoroughly disappointed when I looked at the shots. Keep shooting and keep asking questions and you'll keep getting better. [/QUOTE]

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