Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Nikon DSLR Cameras
D5200
LiveView vs. the Viewfinder
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 353799" data-attributes="member: 12496"><p>Different how? If in Manual camera mode, viewfinder shows the tick marks allowing easy compensation (up to a point). </p><p> If in Live View, camera shifts into Auto ISO (wanted or not), automatic again, and the only compensation is with the EV button. Auto ISO will make a big difference.</p><p>That EV button is seen in the top LCD display for viewfinder, and seen in the rear LCD for Live View, but I don't see any other difference. Auto ISO is the huge factor.</p><p></p><p>The mirror is up in Live View, and the viewfinder path is not a factor, so I suspect blocking the viewfinder is not important if in Live View mode. I've never worried about it, it is shifted out of gear if Live View.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have not noticed that myself, the viewfinder is mighty good, specially built do do this job. Generally, but especially for action. Specifically, viewfinder focusing is greatly faster than viewfinder. Viewfinder has dedicated focusing sensors in it, called phase shift. It can know immediately which way it is out of focus, and how much, and can quickly seek to the correct place. Like day and night.</p><p></p><p>Live View, all it has to look at is the pixels in the image in the sensor. It has to experiment around trying this and that, looking for sharper contrast divisions, to determine what is better (called Contrast Detection focusing). </p><p> Here is one link: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofocus#Passive" target="_blank">Autofocus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p>More at <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=contrast+detection+vs+phase+shift+focus" target="_blank">contrast detection vs phase shift focus - Google Search</a></p><p></p><p>It is good to know the difference. Trying to convert a fan maybe, but Viewfinder phase shift is the DSLR way. Contrast detection is the compact camera way. For example, movie focusing (Live View) is simply awful - use manual focus when you can.</p><p></p><p>You will notice the focusing options are different between viewfinder and live view. It is entirely extremely different situations, different words. Viewfinder has more actual options, some of which may not be particularly best for your situation. Like AF-C can allow focus to follow moving targets (beginners always imagine they need this, but few shots are action), but it also can allow the shutter activation when not yet focused (not often the best plan). Some attention to these options is necessary.</p><p></p><p>I stay in single focus point AF-S most of time, just right for my pictures. I can deal with it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The Live View LCD is hard to see in the sun (and your reading glasses are probably necessary). However, a couple of advantages, we can hold Live View over our head to see better in a crowd. And if focusing on tiny things not even seen in the view finder (like the stars at night), we can zoom in if in Live View, and manual focusing is helped greatly. </p><p> </p><p>But in general, the way to bet is the viewfinder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 353799, member: 12496"] Different how? If in Manual camera mode, viewfinder shows the tick marks allowing easy compensation (up to a point). If in Live View, camera shifts into Auto ISO (wanted or not), automatic again, and the only compensation is with the EV button. Auto ISO will make a big difference. That EV button is seen in the top LCD display for viewfinder, and seen in the rear LCD for Live View, but I don't see any other difference. Auto ISO is the huge factor. The mirror is up in Live View, and the viewfinder path is not a factor, so I suspect blocking the viewfinder is not important if in Live View mode. I've never worried about it, it is shifted out of gear if Live View. I have not noticed that myself, the viewfinder is mighty good, specially built do do this job. Generally, but especially for action. Specifically, viewfinder focusing is greatly faster than viewfinder. Viewfinder has dedicated focusing sensors in it, called phase shift. It can know immediately which way it is out of focus, and how much, and can quickly seek to the correct place. Like day and night. Live View, all it has to look at is the pixels in the image in the sensor. It has to experiment around trying this and that, looking for sharper contrast divisions, to determine what is better (called Contrast Detection focusing). Here is one link: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofocus#Passive"]Autofocus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] More at [URL="http://www.google.com/search?q=contrast+detection+vs+phase+shift+focus"]contrast detection vs phase shift focus - Google Search[/URL] It is good to know the difference. Trying to convert a fan maybe, but Viewfinder phase shift is the DSLR way. Contrast detection is the compact camera way. For example, movie focusing (Live View) is simply awful - use manual focus when you can. You will notice the focusing options are different between viewfinder and live view. It is entirely extremely different situations, different words. Viewfinder has more actual options, some of which may not be particularly best for your situation. Like AF-C can allow focus to follow moving targets (beginners always imagine they need this, but few shots are action), but it also can allow the shutter activation when not yet focused (not often the best plan). Some attention to these options is necessary. I stay in single focus point AF-S most of time, just right for my pictures. I can deal with it. :) The Live View LCD is hard to see in the sun (and your reading glasses are probably necessary). However, a couple of advantages, we can hold Live View over our head to see better in a crowd. And if focusing on tiny things not even seen in the view finder (like the stars at night), we can zoom in if in Live View, and manual focusing is helped greatly. But in general, the way to bet is the viewfinder. [/QUOTE]
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Nikon DSLR Cameras
D5200
LiveView vs. the Viewfinder
Top
