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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 351788" data-attributes="member: 12496"><p>It is really hard to be enthusiastic about recommending a $75 light kit like this. It is not flash you know, it is continuous light bulbs. The twelve light bulbs alone ought to cost twice this total (but don't? ). It seems odd it shows a background stand, but never mentions it at all. The cost per item is just unbelievably low, couldn't expect much. </p><p></p><p> But the principle is that continuous lights are not bright for photography. They can be OK, even good, for still life (products) where you can use any slow shutter speed, but not good for human portraits (people move). At best, you will using rather high ISO to have enough light for any decent shutter speed, and at worst, white balance could be a problem too.</p><p></p><p>Do you have a speedlight for your camera? Do you have flash experience? A couple of usable manual speedlight flashes are maybe $60 each (Yongnuo or Neewer are good). Inexpensive radio triggers, maybe $30 more. We are talking cheap but usable stuff. A couple of umbrellas and stands are around $130, Cheaper umbrellas and stands are available, there is always cheaper. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Maybe $300 for two lights (main and fill).</p><p></p><p>There are big differences in flash and continuous lights.</p><p></p><p>Flash is very bright, but continuous is relatively dim for photography. We might think lights are bright, but not as compared to the sun (and photography). Flash is however, and flash is extremely popular. </p><p></p><p>Flash exposure does not depend on shutter speed, but continuous light does. For continuous light, a 1/100 second shutter passes only 1/100 the light that a 1 second shutter passes. To flash, its all the same, we probably use 1/200 second.</p><p></p><p>The camera meter easily meters continuous (convenient), but for flash, it doesn't, and you are own your own, trial and error. This is NOT trivial. Very manual, the furthest thing from point&shoot. You have to make the flash power levels match your camera exposure. Flash meters exist to do this easily, but will cost as much as the total of the rest (mentioned). Trial and error will get there though, it is not that much work, but not trivial either (every time). Some learning curve, but flash is a better long term solution. Certainly for portraits, flash is just how it is done, but still life products might possibly be an exception. Products can use a long shutter, portraits cannot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 351788, member: 12496"] It is really hard to be enthusiastic about recommending a $75 light kit like this. It is not flash you know, it is continuous light bulbs. The twelve light bulbs alone ought to cost twice this total (but don't? ). It seems odd it shows a background stand, but never mentions it at all. The cost per item is just unbelievably low, couldn't expect much. But the principle is that continuous lights are not bright for photography. They can be OK, even good, for still life (products) where you can use any slow shutter speed, but not good for human portraits (people move). At best, you will using rather high ISO to have enough light for any decent shutter speed, and at worst, white balance could be a problem too. Do you have a speedlight for your camera? Do you have flash experience? A couple of usable manual speedlight flashes are maybe $60 each (Yongnuo or Neewer are good). Inexpensive radio triggers, maybe $30 more. We are talking cheap but usable stuff. A couple of umbrellas and stands are around $130, Cheaper umbrellas and stands are available, there is always cheaper. :) Maybe $300 for two lights (main and fill). There are big differences in flash and continuous lights. Flash is very bright, but continuous is relatively dim for photography. We might think lights are bright, but not as compared to the sun (and photography). Flash is however, and flash is extremely popular. Flash exposure does not depend on shutter speed, but continuous light does. For continuous light, a 1/100 second shutter passes only 1/100 the light that a 1 second shutter passes. To flash, its all the same, we probably use 1/200 second. The camera meter easily meters continuous (convenient), but for flash, it doesn't, and you are own your own, trial and error. This is NOT trivial. Very manual, the furthest thing from point&shoot. You have to make the flash power levels match your camera exposure. Flash meters exist to do this easily, but will cost as much as the total of the rest (mentioned). Trial and error will get there though, it is not that much work, but not trivial either (every time). Some learning curve, but flash is a better long term solution. Certainly for portraits, flash is just how it is done, but still life products might possibly be an exception. Products can use a long shutter, portraits cannot. [/QUOTE]
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