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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 265687" data-attributes="member: 14443">I understand your desire to help but the guy has a $800 budget. how can he possibly fit a $1500 into that? what we think is best is not always in his best interest. we have to consider his needs. not what an ideal solution is. consider he might be family man and is tight with funds and at the end of the month needs money to buy food. as much as the IQ will be better than all the lenses listed here, the 24-70 isnt relevant to his needs. you must consider what the OP needs. take into consideration that he can buy the tamron or nikon with his CC and make payments on it. with a used lens, he needs the money up front. adding $200 to the budget for $1000, I would recommend either the  24-85VR or the tamron 28-75 or a used sigma 24-70 or the nikon 35-70 2.8  and a used 80-200 2.8 or even the 70-210 f/4</blockquote>