Lens help ?

BF Hammer

Senior Member
Yeah, I did not want to open that can of worms about mirrorless. Basically we are at the end of the road for new DSLR camera bodies. When current inventories are gone, it is mirrorless bodies with Z-mount lenses that are left.

So if I were starting new, I would walk past the discounted DSLR gear and pick up a Z series camera and begin with stuff Nikon will be building from now on. We are into the 3rd generation of mirrorless bodies now and they are competitive with everything out there.

That said, for bird photography your D7500 is also a fine choice and will work well once you select the right lens.
 

ifrarrow

New member
If it's in the budget you may want to go longer maybe a 200-500 or 100-600. I use a 70-300 (my longest) it is what I would call a backyard lens. I only occasionally photograph birds but think longer would be better. Maybe some of the birders will jump in and comment.
I’m thinking ahead here now. Yes in a very short time I’ll want to move on from the 300mm zoom. It was mentioned that a 600mm or longer will be needed. Who makes a longer lens that doesn’t cost as much or more than my camera ?
 

BF Hammer

Senior Member
Here are reviews of the Sigma and Tamron 150-600mm lenses mentioned. They pretty much are equivalent to each other and it mostly comes down to brand loyalty it seems for choosing which. I had some Art series Sigma lenses and like them, other people have history of using Tamron and like them.
Nikon's 200-500mm is a close as they compete with these two. https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/nikon/200-500mm-f5.6e-ed-vr-af-s-nikkor/review/

Used prices here.
 

Dawg Pics

Senior Member
When this initial phase is over I'm going to look back and think, did I actually ask those stupid questions. :))
They aren't stupid questions. All of the information with regards to being a new photographer can be overwhelming. Unless you have been shooting Nikon for a few decades, you won't know about all of the older lens types. Some of the older lenses can be used, but you won't be able to autofocus with them. This page from Nikon has some definitions at the bottom of the page.

 

ifrarrow

New member
Welcome!

What types of subject will you be photographing?

My recommendation is you go with a 70-300 instead. See information here: https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/n...-lens-reviews/nikon-70-300mm-f45-56-af-p.html

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR would be a good choice if you want to stick with the 55-300.
You want AF-S which means it has an internal focus motor so you wont need to manual focus. The VR is vibration reduction which helps keep the image sharp.

See guide to Nikon abbreviation: https://petapixel.com/nikons-lens-abbreviations/

If you are not adverse to buying used you can save some money. Here are two.
https://www.keh.com/
https://www.mpb.com/en
This would be my first time out using my Sigma 150-600mm C lens. All the eagle action was happening on the far bank of the Wisconsin River that day. The other photographers were out with 200mm and 300mm lenses and pretty much did not even try much. Again, the straight JPGs.

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Then forward to 2022 after I had upgraded body to a D750. The Sigma then started to shine for me.

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Beautiful
 

Doug D

New member
I'm totally new at this hobby. I just purchased a new Nikon (body only) d7500, it's being shipped next week. My first lens will a Nikon 55-300 type. I see there's several different models/types/styles of these Nikon/Nikkor lenses using different model numbers like AF-something DX etc etc.
My question is which 55-300 Nikon model number lens will work perfectly with this d7500 and allow both the camera and lens to work in harmony??

Nikon DX vs FX – What You Need to Know​

Wondering about the differences between Nikon's DX and FX cameras? Here is everything you need to know.​

BY JASON POLAK 401 COMMENTS
LAST UPDATED ON NOVEMBER 22, 2023

Currently, Nikon uses two different sizes of sensors in their cameras: FX and DX. What are DX and FX and how are they different? Which one is better and why? If you need a clear understanding of these formats and their differences, along with seeing actual image samples from both, this article is for you.
Table of Contents

What is FX and DX?​

FX and DX are Nikon’s terms to refer to two different sensor sizes. FX refers to the full-frame sensor size, which is 36mm x 24mm. Any other full-frame camera has this sensor size as well, so a Nikon FX sensor is the same size as any other full-frame sensor.
Nikon has both DSLR and mirrorless cameras in the FX format. The flagship mirrorless Z9 as well as DSLRs like the D6 and D850 are FX cameras.
Nikon’s DX sensor size is 23.5 x 15.7mm. This sensor size is also often called APS-C, although technically some cameras that are called APS-C like Canon’s 90D use a slightly smaller sensor size than the Nikon DX format. Anyway, the DX sensor has about 42.7% of the area of the FX sensor, which is equivalent to saying that the FX sensor has 1.2 stops more total light-gathering ability. Here is a to-scale representation of these two sensor sizes:

Nikon also has three mirrorless DX cameras like the Z50 and many DSLRs like the outstanding D500.
Nikon originally introduced the smaller DX format with the Nikon D1 in 1999 because this smaller sensor size was easier to make compared to the full-frame size of film and modern full-frame sensors. Although smaller sensors have some disadvantages, DX or APS-C size sensors have survived until now and many photographers still prefer them due to cost and their relatively higher pixel density compared to most full-frame cameras.
Full-frame sensors came later to the digital world. Nikon took eight years after the D1 to release their first FX camera, the Nikon D3. Now, compared to APS-C, full-frame cameras are dominant in terms of currently available new models, but that does not mean APS-C has lost its charm.

DX vs FX: Field of View​

Take take a photo with a full-frame camera and a 35mm lens that covers the full-frame sensor, and then crop it by about 1.5x on each side. By doing this, you will get the same composition as if you switch that 35mm lens to a DX camera and shoot in the same direction from the same spot. (Assuming nothing changes in your scene, of course). The number of pixels might be different due to different sensors, but the composition will be identical.
This change in the field of view is known as the crop factor. It simply means that a lens of a given focal length will have a narrower field of view in DX format. For wildlife photographers, this has in the past allowed more “pixels on the subject” with a DX camera because most FX cameras had lower pixel densities than DX cameras. And indeed, you still need to get a fairly expensive FX camera to match the pixel density of a cheaper DX camera.
The additional area of the FX sensor (shown as a darkened border) can help if you can get really close to your subject, such as this habituated groundhog.
Today, however, there are many more choices for high-pixel density full-frame cameras. For example, the Z9 has almost exactly the same pixel density as the D500, so in this case, the DX D500 offers no additional “reach advantages” to the Z9.
On the other hand, while you can crop a full-frame image to match the field of view provided by a DX camera, you cannot un-crop. Therefore, full-frame cameras give a wider field of view than APS-C cameras with the same lens, which is helpful for taking very wide shots. For example, with an APS-C camera, it is impossible to get the wide field of view of the Nikon 14-30 f/4 lens combined with a full-frame Z camera.
NIKON Z 7 + NIKKOR Z 14-30mm f/4 S @ 14mm, ISO 100, 1/4, f/11.0 © Spencer Cox
The wider field of view of a full-frame camera can be helpful in wildlife even if you are cropping to DX levels. This is because it will be easier to track birds in flight or other animals with more space in the viewfinder, especially if you own a fixed prime and can’t zoom out to locate your subject.

DX vs FX: Light Gathering Capability​

Being a larger sensor, FX can gather more total light. Does this mean that an FX camera has better low-light performance than a DX camera in the real world? Sometimes, it does.
In situations where you can move in closer with otherwise the same settings, you will get better low-light performance with an FX camera. For example, I shoot the Nikon 500mm f/5.6 PF lens. If I shoot a bird with my DX D500, and then move in closer to get the same composition but with my Nikon Z6, I will get about 1.2 stops more light and hence better low-light performance.
Here is an actual comparison between the Nikon Z6 and Nikon D500 (which has the same sensor as the Nikon Z50) with identical exposures and the same lens, but with the Nikon Z6 moved in closer to match the field of view given by the D500:
An extreme crop of two images taken with identical settings, lens, and conditions, but with the Nikon Z6 (FX) moved closer to match the Nikon D500 (DX) field of view. You can see about one stop less noise in the FX image
However, moving in towards your subject may not always be practical as I did here. But sometimes you will encounter the right situation with a full-frame camera. If you often do, or you can often move closer like in the case of shooting people, then a full-frame camera can provide some advantage.
Of course, there are other practical considerations. If you are budget-limited, and you can only afford an f/1.8 lens if you get an FX camera, whereas you would be able to afford an f/1.4 lens with a DX camera, then there are no low-light advantages of an FX camera in this case.
FX sensors also have more dynamic range. This can be especially helpful in landscape photography where the dynamic range of a scene can be massive. This combined with a wider field of view makes FX cameras a better choice than DX for landscapes.
Nikon Z6 + 50mm f/1.8 G @ 50mm, ISO 100, 1/320, f/6.3 © Jason Polak
So the FX sensor is larger and will give you some real-world low-light benefits, provided you can take advantage of them. I would also say that because the absolute performance of sensors is better than it once was, and because noise-reduction technology is getting better, very few people will really need that extra level of performance.
Shots at higher ISOs like this one at ISO 2800 are not a problem for today’s DX sensors. © Jason Polak

DX vs FX: Resolution​

Since FX sensors are larger, they can have more pixels. The Nikon Z7 has 45.7 megapixels (MP), which is higher than any DX sensor. In some ways, this does give more flexibility, since it allows more cropping and larger printing. This only really matters though if you are making very huge prints or you need a lot of cropping in situations like wildlife.
But if for whatever reason you want more pixels, a high-resolution FX camera like the Z9, D850, or Z7II could be the right camera for you. I also encourage you to read What Are Megapixels and How Many Do You
 
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