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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 259237" data-attributes="member: 9240">It's not a matter of having to push them around more, it's knowing what sliders do what and when you use them.For the morbidly curious, here's the before and after images that go with the preset I uploaded...Before[ATTACH]70698[/ATTACH]After[ATTACH]70699[/ATTACH]In addition to the settings in the preset, I also used a gradient filter to bring out the sky (see settings here)...[ATTACH]70700[/ATTACH]...and a brush adjustment to bring out and warm up the treeline (effected area in red)...[ATTACH]70701[/ATTACH]Just to note, this is very high on the radically over manipulated side as I was trying to replicate some of the things I had produced on the other images taken with this one yesterday.  You'll hardly ever see me boosting Clarity, Vibrance and Saturation like this - but it's nice to know you can do it.And please realize, if you save the first image and attempt to apply the preset to it there's no chance it's going to look the same since you're dealing with a low-res jpeg and not the full RAW file.One hint, if you ever run out of room on a slider, use the brush tool and paint the entire image (100% opacity), then run only that slider to its max position, then adjust using the regular set of sliders from there.As I've said many times, if I could only have one tool for post it would be LR.</blockquote>