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ISO Auto in Manual: overexposure
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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 425948" data-attributes="member: 12496"><p>Bravo, you are correct, right on, good detective work. If we look, the Exif does say Spot metering, and Spot requires beaucoup more experience and attention. Spot metering is absolutely worst choice for novices (they don't understand it). Spot will rarely be correct, or even ballpark, without considerable user attention and knowledge.</p><p></p><p>Not that it matters, but we could ask what spot? And then, didn't that spot come out about middle gray? That will true of any color or shade the spot was on. Was middle gray desired? For example, we just learn to know that if we Spot meter on a Caucasian face (to isolate it from the background), we dang well better compensate it about +1 EV (so the face won't be middle gray). But novices don't know things yet.</p><p></p><p>It was camera Manual mode and fixed ISO 800, so no form of metering could change the camera settings at all. The user set them. </p><p> So to even ask the question about what's wrong, we have to presume the user manually zeroed the camera meter to select those settings, and thought he was metering. But he better be very knowledgeable about Spot metering to expect a correct exposure. Spot metering ain't easy. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Spot is a very advanced technique, requiring considerable experience and special knowledge. The spot chosen should come out middle gray, regardless what it is or was.</p><p></p><p>One exception: Spot metering is used indoors, using automatic TTL flash (which does NOT Spot meter itself - it has its own method), will switch flash from TTL BL to TTL mode, and the ambient (where we use flash) is way down, insignificant, well underexposed. So even if the camera is not fully Manual, the ambient is too far down for Spot (or any metering) to affect camera settings for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Simply try using Center Weighted or Matrix metering next time, and the camera metering should improve greatly. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> This was not the cameras fault. It is the users fault for not understanding Spot metering well enough to use it. Not so many of us do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 425948, member: 12496"] Bravo, you are correct, right on, good detective work. If we look, the Exif does say Spot metering, and Spot requires beaucoup more experience and attention. Spot metering is absolutely worst choice for novices (they don't understand it). Spot will rarely be correct, or even ballpark, without considerable user attention and knowledge. Not that it matters, but we could ask what spot? And then, didn't that spot come out about middle gray? That will true of any color or shade the spot was on. Was middle gray desired? For example, we just learn to know that if we Spot meter on a Caucasian face (to isolate it from the background), we dang well better compensate it about +1 EV (so the face won't be middle gray). But novices don't know things yet. It was camera Manual mode and fixed ISO 800, so no form of metering could change the camera settings at all. The user set them. So to even ask the question about what's wrong, we have to presume the user manually zeroed the camera meter to select those settings, and thought he was metering. But he better be very knowledgeable about Spot metering to expect a correct exposure. Spot metering ain't easy. :) Spot is a very advanced technique, requiring considerable experience and special knowledge. The spot chosen should come out middle gray, regardless what it is or was. One exception: Spot metering is used indoors, using automatic TTL flash (which does NOT Spot meter itself - it has its own method), will switch flash from TTL BL to TTL mode, and the ambient (where we use flash) is way down, insignificant, well underexposed. So even if the camera is not fully Manual, the ambient is too far down for Spot (or any metering) to affect camera settings for it. Simply try using Center Weighted or Matrix metering next time, and the camera metering should improve greatly. :) This was not the cameras fault. It is the users fault for not understanding Spot metering well enough to use it. Not so many of us do. [/QUOTE]
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