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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bechdan" data-source="post: 297889" data-attributes="member: 15325">hard to follow BDHs post but ill share my experience.i used a 50mm 1.8d with tubes which was ok but as already mentioned you have to get really close and lighting is a problemi also used the 50mm and then later on a 40mm 2.8 micro(macro) lens with an opteka close up filter which was better than the tubes and i didnt notice any reduction in image quality.The flatter focal plane with the macro lens and more usable working depth of field was definately an improvement over the 50mm. So ive recently bought a 105mm macro instead which is really good as i dont have to get so close any more. The disadvantage of the 105mm is its a little harder to hold still for handheld macro.Hope that helps.</blockquote>