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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 503980" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>"<em>The first thing he teaches is to remove all noise in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) and specifially says that LR's RAW function sucks in comparison to ACR."</em><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">The first thing I would have asked the guy is how it's possible for the same software to suck in one interface and be perfectly acceptable in another? This guy has <strong>no idea</strong> what Lightroom is.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Let me explain then. LR is a comprehensive piece of organizational and publishing photo processing software built around the Adobe Camera RAW engine ... the very same ACR engine that Photoshop uses - which is why there are always simultaneous releases of ACR and LR (you can occasionally get a Beta version of ACR ahead of time). LR simply adds the organizational capabilities of Adobe Bridge on the front end, and a variety of output and publishing modules on the back. The Develop module simply takes the tabs listed in ACR and stacks them vertically in the right panel.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Don't believe me? Take a RAW image and don't import it to LR, simply copy it to your hard drive. Open the RAW file directly using Photoshop, this will invoke ACR as a front end. Make your adjustments and then choose the Open Image to get it into Photoshop. This creates a <strong><em>.xmp</em></strong> sidecar file in the same directory as the RAW file. Now go to Lightroom and import that RAW file to your catalog. Like magic, those same settings you applied in ACR that are applied during import and are now shown in the LR Develop module. <strong><em>All of them!!</em></strong> Even radial and graduated filters. Because it reads the sidecar file. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">This could <u>never</u> happen if it wasn't the same engine. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">For what it's worth, this demonstration works the other way as well. After making adjustments in LR, then right-click on the image and choose <strong><em>Metadata -> Save Metadata To File</em></strong>. This will create a (wait for it) <em>.xmp</em> file for the RAW image. Now go to Photoshop and open that RAW file. It will once again invoke ACR as the front end, <em>and immediately apply all the setting from LR to ACR.</em></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">I suspect your instructor is under-informed or over-prejudiced against LR for some reason. And while that's OK, it's not cool to spread misinformation to people who are paying to learn something. </span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 503980, member: 9240"] "[I]The first thing he teaches is to remove all noise in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) and specifially says that LR's RAW function sucks in comparison to ACR."[/I][LEFT][COLOR=#000000] The first thing I would have asked the guy is how it's possible for the same software to suck in one interface and be perfectly acceptable in another? This guy has [B]no idea[/B] what Lightroom is. Let me explain then. LR is a comprehensive piece of organizational and publishing photo processing software built around the Adobe Camera RAW engine ... the very same ACR engine that Photoshop uses - which is why there are always simultaneous releases of ACR and LR (you can occasionally get a Beta version of ACR ahead of time). LR simply adds the organizational capabilities of Adobe Bridge on the front end, and a variety of output and publishing modules on the back. The Develop module simply takes the tabs listed in ACR and stacks them vertically in the right panel. Don't believe me? Take a RAW image and don't import it to LR, simply copy it to your hard drive. Open the RAW file directly using Photoshop, this will invoke ACR as a front end. Make your adjustments and then choose the Open Image to get it into Photoshop. This creates a [B][I].xmp[/I][/B] sidecar file in the same directory as the RAW file. Now go to Lightroom and import that RAW file to your catalog. Like magic, those same settings you applied in ACR that are applied during import and are now shown in the LR Develop module. [B][I]All of them!![/I][/B] Even radial and graduated filters. Because it reads the sidecar file. This could [U]never[/U] happen if it wasn't the same engine. For what it's worth, this demonstration works the other way as well. After making adjustments in LR, then right-click on the image and choose [B][I]Metadata -> Save Metadata To File[/I][/B]. This will create a (wait for it) [I].xmp[/I] file for the RAW image. Now go to Photoshop and open that RAW file. It will once again invoke ACR as the front end, [I]and immediately apply all the setting from LR to ACR.[/I] I suspect your instructor is under-informed or over-prejudiced against LR for some reason. And while that's OK, it's not cool to spread misinformation to people who are paying to learn something. [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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