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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 761917" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>So I picked up a loaner R5 yesterday w/ grip and 100-500mm f4.5-7.1 (plus some other goodies I haven't tried yet). It was sort of a damp, overcast day, so not ideal for shooting, but I figure if you want to see how something performs then bad light is better than good light.</p><p></p><p>Shooting with a Canon for me is like driving in England. You recognize 90% of it but the 10% that's backwards messes with your head for the first hour. And that's about what it took me to get the dials and buttons set up to where they were close to how I shoot with the D500's. </p><p></p><p>This isn't a full review, just some immediate first impressions in the midst of my insomnia. The kit as is weighs roughly the same as a D500 + 500mm PF (I'm guessing it's within 4 oz), and that's with a grip and extra battery which I likely won't shoot with. So it's lighter. I expected to lose some sharpness with the zoom over the prime but if I am then it's minimal. This was taken at 500mm wide open at f7.1 (I normally shoot at f7.1 or f8 for birds like this so I don't feel like I'm losing anything)...</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358569[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>But that wasn't the most impressive part. We had a turkey in the yard pecking a seed under a bird feeder and the camera had no issue focusing on the head when it was surrounded by seed in the frame, and it would immediately go the eye when it lifted its head and would track on the eye perfectly. With the Z6ii it'll grab an eye but the tracking in the viewfinder will lag as the subject moves or you reframe. I pinged my brother to tell him how impressed I was and he asked if I'd set it to animal eye detect? I told him I hadn't even thought to because I was still wandering through the menus, but I quickly found it and changed it. </p><p></p><p>The next shot I attempted to take was a female bluebird perched in a weeping cherry. I spotted her with a treat for her babies through a gap in the foliage (below is processed but zero crop at 500mm f8)...</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358570[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I put the focus box over her (she was slightly out of focus) and when I pressed the button to focus it not only focused but it put a box square on her eye - sharp as a tack.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358571[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>It kept doing that every time an eye was available. And by "available" I mean if you could see a part of it the camera grabbed it. Take a look at these shots, straight out of camera, zero adjustments. The first is the full frame as seen at 500mm f8 ISO 3200, the second is cropped in. I put the focus box over the bird (the entire bird fit in the box) and it grabbed the eye even as it looked away from the camera...</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358572[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358573[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Really impressive and I could be more than happy if this was all I had to shoot with. My one and only complaint is the color of the raw images in Lightroom. Apparently Adobe rushed the Camera Raw profiles for the camera and did a crappy job on color rendering, something my brother told me to expect. He also told me that the horror is that Adobe won't fix it because if they do then when you upgrade Lr/Camera Raw to the fixed version any images processed with the old one will now be off. Worse yet he's said that he's tried to create profiles using the Profile Creation Tool but he's not been able to get anything that's perfect, so his recommendation was to download Canon's Digital Photo Professional software and use that as my first step to generate a color-perfect Tiff file that I could then edit as normal. I hate adding steps and more files to the process, particularly considering the size of the files you get from 45MPs, but I'm going to need to do some testing (I can also shoot in cropped mode and save some of that space).</p><p></p><p>The one thing I can say is that there's no doubt in my mind that I'm selling the Z6ii and 24-200mm and switching to the R5. I can easily go on vacation with one body and 2 lenses (the 24-105mm and the 100-500mm) and shoot anything I wanted or needed to and not feel like I'm missing out. So if anyone is looking for a barely used, really nice mirrorless rig (I'd be keeping it if I didn't shoot wildlife so much), the Nikon is available.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 761917, member: 9240"] So I picked up a loaner R5 yesterday w/ grip and 100-500mm f4.5-7.1 (plus some other goodies I haven't tried yet). It was sort of a damp, overcast day, so not ideal for shooting, but I figure if you want to see how something performs then bad light is better than good light. Shooting with a Canon for me is like driving in England. You recognize 90% of it but the 10% that's backwards messes with your head for the first hour. And that's about what it took me to get the dials and buttons set up to where they were close to how I shoot with the D500's. This isn't a full review, just some immediate first impressions in the midst of my insomnia. The kit as is weighs roughly the same as a D500 + 500mm PF (I'm guessing it's within 4 oz), and that's with a grip and extra battery which I likely won't shoot with. So it's lighter. I expected to lose some sharpness with the zoom over the prime but if I am then it's minimal. This was taken at 500mm wide open at f7.1 (I normally shoot at f7.1 or f8 for birds like this so I don't feel like I'm losing anything)... [ATTACH type="full" width="60%"]358569._xfImport[/ATTACH] But that wasn't the most impressive part. We had a turkey in the yard pecking a seed under a bird feeder and the camera had no issue focusing on the head when it was surrounded by seed in the frame, and it would immediately go the eye when it lifted its head and would track on the eye perfectly. With the Z6ii it'll grab an eye but the tracking in the viewfinder will lag as the subject moves or you reframe. I pinged my brother to tell him how impressed I was and he asked if I'd set it to animal eye detect? I told him I hadn't even thought to because I was still wandering through the menus, but I quickly found it and changed it. The next shot I attempted to take was a female bluebird perched in a weeping cherry. I spotted her with a treat for her babies through a gap in the foliage (below is processed but zero crop at 500mm f8)... [ATTACH type="full" width="60%"]358570._xfImport[/ATTACH] I put the focus box over her (she was slightly out of focus) and when I pressed the button to focus it not only focused but it put a box square on her eye - sharp as a tack. [ATTACH type="full" width="60%"]358571._xfImport[/ATTACH] It kept doing that every time an eye was available. And by "available" I mean if you could see a part of it the camera grabbed it. Take a look at these shots, straight out of camera, zero adjustments. The first is the full frame as seen at 500mm f8 ISO 3200, the second is cropped in. I put the focus box over the bird (the entire bird fit in the box) and it grabbed the eye even as it looked away from the camera... [ATTACH type="full" width="60%"]358572._xfImport[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="60%"]358573._xfImport[/ATTACH] Really impressive and I could be more than happy if this was all I had to shoot with. My one and only complaint is the color of the raw images in Lightroom. Apparently Adobe rushed the Camera Raw profiles for the camera and did a crappy job on color rendering, something my brother told me to expect. He also told me that the horror is that Adobe won't fix it because if they do then when you upgrade Lr/Camera Raw to the fixed version any images processed with the old one will now be off. Worse yet he's said that he's tried to create profiles using the Profile Creation Tool but he's not been able to get anything that's perfect, so his recommendation was to download Canon's Digital Photo Professional software and use that as my first step to generate a color-perfect Tiff file that I could then edit as normal. I hate adding steps and more files to the process, particularly considering the size of the files you get from 45MPs, but I'm going to need to do some testing (I can also shoot in cropped mode and save some of that space). The one thing I can say is that there's no doubt in my mind that I'm selling the Z6ii and 24-200mm and switching to the R5. I can easily go on vacation with one body and 2 lenses (the 24-105mm and the 100-500mm) and shoot anything I wanted or needed to and not feel like I'm missing out. So if anyone is looking for a barely used, really nice mirrorless rig (I'd be keeping it if I didn't shoot wildlife so much), the Nikon is available. [/QUOTE]
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