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I can't afford a SB-700 Speedlight atm. Any other makes good or not?
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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 235445" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>no, its not about money being tight, its about people feeling theyre paying too much for nikon flashes. SB28's used to cost $270 when they came out. now a flash is $550. sure, one can say that theres more tech inside but technology evolves. like smartphones..but last years model sold for the same amount this years model cost so it shouldnt cost so much. if they sold for $400 I would buy nikons but crap for $170 I get almost everything I need.</p><p></p><p>as far as model goes, I would recommend 2. either the 565 or the 568. the 565 has a battery port on it, is as fast recycling and as powerful as the flagship 568 but no HSS if youd ever like to use it outdoors for fill flash. not the 565 nor the 568 will work as a master to control off camera flash models as slaves. they can only be as slaves themselves but if the camera you use has a built in flash, its pretty certain that it can be a master (through the menu) and fire them of. the 568 flagship has HSS to 1/8000 shutter speeds and is as fast and powerful as the SB-910. very good flash. </p><p></p><p>heres the BEST part of the flash that I love. the head doesnt have a dumb locking button you need to activate before turn the head. for me and shooting weddings, its just wonderful. also when you open the door it opens on a spring like the memory card door in our cameras. so you pull it down and boom it hinges out and holds open. VERY nice when im fumbling with batteries I need to change. the nikon hinge is loose and even the diagram on how to place the batteries is more legible on the yongnuo. on the dance floor when its dark you have to angle the flash so you can see the diagram which is inside the battery cavity. the yongnuo have a very bright white sticker on a flat panel that makes it oh so easy. small thinsg that make my stressful work a little less.</p><p>it has a locking wheel vs the turn to lock dial. I myself still prefer the locking wheel compared to the flip switch nikon uses which gets a bit loose over time because I can tighten it a bit more. my sb700 and sb800 are both loose and you cant do anything about it. even on my new D600 and new yongnuo 622 slaves (all 4)</p><p></p><p>something that I dont like about the 568 (my flash specifically) the bounce card comes out of its place. it was embarrassing but its happened a few times in critical situations I was under stress to shoot. you just make sure not to pull it out quickly.</p><p></p><p>not affiliated with them and even had a fight with them in the past but I bought my 560II 568 and 4-622n slaves from the thephotogadget.com all prices include shipping I think. 565 for $110 and the 568 for $170. </p><p></p><p>the day they come out with the 568 mark II for nikon (they have a MK II for canon) I will buy 4. it must have a battery port. usb port for firmware, better lens zoom range and must be able to run as a master. it would be great if they included the 622n slaves built in. I know specifically there are so many wedding photographers who buy yongnuo flashes. I know that they have some fantastic flashes for canon. I think its a matter of time</p><p></p><p>if you want a complete and fully featured flash that has everything the SB910 has and for $300 with 2 years warranty (compared to nikons 1) look at the phottix mitros. I was going to buy2 but the flashes are not compatible with yongnuo's 622n slaves. I thought it might be. if slaves that are on the same level as the 622 with the same price tag come out, I will buy those. just having too many issues as the 622n slaves arent running ttl with my d3. no reason to pay so much for manual only slaves. the sb800 doestn work with the 622n slaves as well. </p><p></p><p>hope that helps</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have the mets 58 AF-2. its a great flash but 5 things that will drive a person nuts are 1, slow recycle compared to newer flashes, and 2, pressing the buttons to change anything requires WAY to many presses. 3, when pressing the buttons, it also has a slow delay to it compared to other flashes. its minute but very noticeable. 4, start up time is too long imo. 5, and the locking wheel is too smooth and hard to deal with. not like the yongnuo that have tiny notches throughout the wheel. nice feature about it is the 2nd fill bulb. but just meh and way overpriced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 235445, member: 14443"] no, its not about money being tight, its about people feeling theyre paying too much for nikon flashes. SB28's used to cost $270 when they came out. now a flash is $550. sure, one can say that theres more tech inside but technology evolves. like smartphones..but last years model sold for the same amount this years model cost so it shouldnt cost so much. if they sold for $400 I would buy nikons but crap for $170 I get almost everything I need. as far as model goes, I would recommend 2. either the 565 or the 568. the 565 has a battery port on it, is as fast recycling and as powerful as the flagship 568 but no HSS if youd ever like to use it outdoors for fill flash. not the 565 nor the 568 will work as a master to control off camera flash models as slaves. they can only be as slaves themselves but if the camera you use has a built in flash, its pretty certain that it can be a master (through the menu) and fire them of. the 568 flagship has HSS to 1/8000 shutter speeds and is as fast and powerful as the SB-910. very good flash. heres the BEST part of the flash that I love. the head doesnt have a dumb locking button you need to activate before turn the head. for me and shooting weddings, its just wonderful. also when you open the door it opens on a spring like the memory card door in our cameras. so you pull it down and boom it hinges out and holds open. VERY nice when im fumbling with batteries I need to change. the nikon hinge is loose and even the diagram on how to place the batteries is more legible on the yongnuo. on the dance floor when its dark you have to angle the flash so you can see the diagram which is inside the battery cavity. the yongnuo have a very bright white sticker on a flat panel that makes it oh so easy. small thinsg that make my stressful work a little less. it has a locking wheel vs the turn to lock dial. I myself still prefer the locking wheel compared to the flip switch nikon uses which gets a bit loose over time because I can tighten it a bit more. my sb700 and sb800 are both loose and you cant do anything about it. even on my new D600 and new yongnuo 622 slaves (all 4) something that I dont like about the 568 (my flash specifically) the bounce card comes out of its place. it was embarrassing but its happened a few times in critical situations I was under stress to shoot. you just make sure not to pull it out quickly. not affiliated with them and even had a fight with them in the past but I bought my 560II 568 and 4-622n slaves from the thephotogadget.com all prices include shipping I think. 565 for $110 and the 568 for $170. the day they come out with the 568 mark II for nikon (they have a MK II for canon) I will buy 4. it must have a battery port. usb port for firmware, better lens zoom range and must be able to run as a master. it would be great if they included the 622n slaves built in. I know specifically there are so many wedding photographers who buy yongnuo flashes. I know that they have some fantastic flashes for canon. I think its a matter of time if you want a complete and fully featured flash that has everything the SB910 has and for $300 with 2 years warranty (compared to nikons 1) look at the phottix mitros. I was going to buy2 but the flashes are not compatible with yongnuo's 622n slaves. I thought it might be. if slaves that are on the same level as the 622 with the same price tag come out, I will buy those. just having too many issues as the 622n slaves arent running ttl with my d3. no reason to pay so much for manual only slaves. the sb800 doestn work with the 622n slaves as well. hope that helps I have the mets 58 AF-2. its a great flash but 5 things that will drive a person nuts are 1, slow recycle compared to newer flashes, and 2, pressing the buttons to change anything requires WAY to many presses. 3, when pressing the buttons, it also has a slow delay to it compared to other flashes. its minute but very noticeable. 4, start up time is too long imo. 5, and the locking wheel is too smooth and hard to deal with. not like the yongnuo that have tiny notches throughout the wheel. nice feature about it is the 2nd fill bulb. but just meh and way overpriced. [/QUOTE]
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