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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdeg" data-source="post: 75663" data-attributes="member: 1">Thanks everyone. And thanks to those who shared their stories.I'm torn about how I feel about people that commit suicide: - On one hand I think it's selfish. They are putting others in agony because they can't deal with their problems. Instead of seeking help they think that killing themselves will solve those problems.  - On the other hand they are making a choice to end their lives, and they should have that choice. Maybe in some screwed up way they deserve to die.  - Either way, it's really really selfish to kill others because of your problems.In this case it just really bothers me that there were no signs of anything being wrong. Obviously it wasn't a mistake, it was planned. Phillydog, I don't really think there's an issue with guns here. If it wasn't a gun then it would've been something else.</blockquote>