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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 293468" data-attributes="member: 9240">I think we worry far too much about noise and not enough about the photograph.&nbsp; Noise has never ruined a truly great photo, it just provides a further distraction on the so-so ones.That said, you're spot on about the advances in sensor technology.&nbsp; Heck, was it Sony that just announced a camera that can shoot in the dark?&nbsp; When I'm out and about I almost never worry about ISO any more.&nbsp; Both the D800 and D600 are set on Auto ISO with a top end of 6400 as the norm.&nbsp; I'd rather just have to worry about the photo.&nbsp; Set the shutter speed to stop the bird and the aperture to get the DoF I want and let the camera do the rest.&nbsp; Heck, as long as I pay some attention I can shoot Manual like it's Auto, which is great for birds in flight.&nbsp; Set the shutter to 1/1000 - 1/1600 sec and the aperture around f/8 on the big lens (sweet spot) and if I'm in the mid-thousands with the ISO who cares?&nbsp; Better than no noise and a blurred bird.One question, Geoff.&nbsp; When you say you &quot;removed all sharpening&quot; does that mean that you moved the slider to 0 in LR?&nbsp; Honestly, I've never thought to do that and will usually leave it at the default (which I've always assumed gets set by the camera), but it makes perfect sense.&nbsp; I just looked at a 3:1 zoom of a 1400 ISO shot in LR and sure enough, less noise.&nbsp; Thanks for enlightening me on a rainy Tuesday morning (which sounds more humble than me thanking you for making me feel like a dumbass - LOL).&nbsp; It's true, if we pay attention we're always learning something.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 293468, member: 9240"] I think we worry far too much about noise and not enough about the photograph. Noise has never ruined a truly great photo, it just provides a further distraction on the so-so ones. That said, you're spot on about the advances in sensor technology. Heck, was it Sony that just announced a camera that can shoot in the dark? When I'm out and about I almost never worry about ISO any more. Both the D800 and D600 are set on Auto ISO with a top end of 6400 as the norm. I'd rather just have to worry about the photo. Set the shutter speed to stop the bird and the aperture to get the DoF I want and let the camera do the rest. Heck, as long as I pay some attention I can shoot Manual like it's Auto, which is great for birds in flight. Set the shutter to 1/1000 - 1/1600 sec and the aperture around f/8 on the big lens (sweet spot) and if I'm in the mid-thousands with the ISO who cares? Better than no noise and a blurred bird. One question, Geoff. When you say you "removed all sharpening" does that mean that you moved the slider to 0 in LR? Honestly, I've never thought to do that and will usually leave it at the default (which I've always assumed gets set by the camera), but it makes perfect sense. I just looked at a 3:1 zoom of a 1400 ISO shot in LR and sure enough, less noise. Thanks for enlightening me on a rainy Tuesday morning (which sounds more humble than me thanking you for making me feel like a dumbass - LOL). It's true, if we pay attention we're always learning something. [/QUOTE]

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