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<blockquote data-quote="salukfan111" data-source="post: 556936" data-attributes="member: 39212">If you're patient you should be able to get a non push pull AF on ebay for 350.&nbsp; The push pull or the more modern version should be comparable (IQ wise) to the 180 f/2.8 you own, better IQ than 70-200 f2.8, but slower AF than 70-200 or 70-300 vrg.&nbsp; I have not used a tc16a on a zoom but it works really well on 180mm f2.8.&nbsp; The 70-300vrg will be better for kids sports (almost as fast AF as 80-400, 4 stops of VR, great IQ to 225 and good to 260) and since you have the 135 and 180 f2.8 already, you won't have an IQ reason to need the 80-200.&nbsp; Some folks here (and other places) really like the 70-200 tamron f2.8.&nbsp; If you are after indoor sports, then you might want the 70-200 tamron instead of the 70-300 or 80-200.If you've got camera buddies in the area, then borrow a 70-210 to see how you like that.&nbsp; Don't buy this one on a whim because people love or hate it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="salukfan111, post: 556936, member: 39212"] If you're patient you should be able to get a non push pull AF on ebay for 350. The push pull or the more modern version should be comparable (IQ wise) to the 180 f/2.8 you own, better IQ than 70-200 f2.8, but slower AF than 70-200 or 70-300 vrg. I have not used a tc16a on a zoom but it works really well on 180mm f2.8. The 70-300vrg will be better for kids sports (almost as fast AF as 80-400, 4 stops of VR, great IQ to 225 and good to 260) and since you have the 135 and 180 f2.8 already, you won't have an IQ reason to need the 80-200. Some folks here (and other places) really like the 70-200 tamron f2.8. If you are after indoor sports, then you might want the 70-200 tamron instead of the 70-300 or 80-200. If you've got camera buddies in the area, then borrow a 70-210 to see how you like that. Don't buy this one on a whim because people love or hate it. [/QUOTE]

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